What PHP version are you using?

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Hi Guys,

I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP people
are using in their production environments.

I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required version
as 5.2.11.

http://pecl.php.net/package/solr/

However, most of the PHP users that want to use it are unable to do so
because the PHP version in the PROD environments is below 5.2.11

They are also nervous about upgrading to newer versions as it will require
some regression testing.

In my production environment I am using 5.3.0 and most of the people that I
have contacted seems to be running 5.2.10

When I released the extension, I did all my regression tests against PHP
5.2.11 and now I am considering doing regression tests against 5.2.4
(released 30 August 2007) and newer versions so that I can set the minimum
required version to 5.2.4 in order to accommodate more people.

I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4 and
newer.

I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.

Thanks.

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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5.2.8, but testing 5.3 in local environment.
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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Fernando Castillo Aparicio <
f_c_a_1980@yahoo.es> wrote:

> 5.2.8, but testing 5.3 in local environment.
>
>

Thanks Fernando.

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
> determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.

5.2.0 to 5.2.11 depending on server.

I'm not yet ready to move to 5.3.0 due to lack of stable support from
the accelerators thus far (at least for the ones I frequent).

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

At 11:10 AM -0400 10/29/09, Israel Ekpo wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP people
>are using in their production environments.

My version depends upon the client. I have one client who is still in
version 4.3.1.0.

Cheers,

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM, tedd wrote:

> At 11:10 AM -0400 10/29/09, Israel Ekpo wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
>> people
>> are using in their production environments.
>>
>
> My version depends upon the client. I have one client who is still in
> version 4.3.1.0.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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Thanks guys.

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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5.2.11 here...


Gr
mrfroasty


Israel Ekpo wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM, tedd wrote:
>
>
>> At 11:10 AM -0400 10/29/09, Israel Ekpo wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
>>> people
>>> are using in their production environments.
>>>
>>>
>> My version depends upon the client. I have one client who is still in
>> version 4.3.1.0.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> tedd
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>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks guys.
>
>


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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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2009/10/29 Israel Ekpo

> Hi Guys,
>
> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
> people
> are using in their production environments.
>
> I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required
> version
> as 5.2.11.
>
[snip]

> I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4
> and
> newer.
>
> I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
> determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
>

> cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.3 (Tikanga)

> php -v
PHP 5.1.6 (cli) (built: Feb 26 2009 07:01:12)
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies

> yum list php
Loaded plugins: downloadonly, rhnplugin, security
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Installed Packages
php.x86_64
5.1.6-23.2.el5_3
installed

I wouldn't have thought this to be too uncommon.

HTH

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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Like Israel it depends on the client I am doing several projects for a
client now that the hosting company is still using 4.0.6 - and its been a
headache. Most of the personal projects and many of my other clients are on
5.1 or higher.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Tom Barrett wrote:

> 2009/10/29 Israel Ekpo
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
> > people
> > are using in their production environments.
> >
> > I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required
> > version
> > as 5.2.11.
> >
> [snip]
>
> > I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4
> > and
> > newer.
> >
> > I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping
> me
> > determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
> >
>
> > cat /etc/redhat-release
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.3 (Tikanga)
>
> > php -v
> PHP 5.1.6 (cli) (built: Feb 26 2009 07:01:12)
> Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
> Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies
>
> > yum list php
> Loaded plugins: downloadonly, rhnplugin, security
> Excluding Packages in global exclude list
> Finished
> Installed Packages
> php.x86_64
> 5.1.6-23.2.el5_3
> installed
>
> I wouldn't have thought this to be too uncommon.
>
> HTH
>

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Dan McCullough
wrote:

> Like Israel it depends on the client I am doing several projects for a
> client now that the hosting company is still using 4.0.6 - and its been a
> headache. Most of the personal projects and many of my other clients are
> on
> 5.1 or higher.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Tom Barrett wrote:
>
> > 2009/10/29 Israel Ekpo
> >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
> > > people
> > > are using in their production environments.
> > >
> > > I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required
> > > version
> > > as 5.2.11.
> > >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at
> 5.2.4
> > > and
> > > newer.
> > >
> > > I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping
> > me
> > > determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
> > >
> >
> > > cat /etc/redhat-release
> > Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.3 (Tikanga)
> >
> > > php -v
> > PHP 5.1.6 (cli) (built: Feb 26 2009 07:01:12)
> > Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
> > Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies
> >
> > > yum list php
> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly, rhnplugin, security
> > Excluding Packages in global exclude list
> > Finished
> > Installed Packages
> > php.x86_64
> > 5.1.6-23.2.el5_3
> > installed
> >
> > I wouldn't have thought this to be too uncommon.
> >
> > HTH
> >
>

The internal Zend Engine version my extension was written for is 2.2.0 or
newer.

That is why I would not be able to go below 5.2.0, unfortunately.

But so far, I appreciate your responses.

Please keep it coming.
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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Tom Barrett wrote:
> 2009/10/29 Israel Ekpo
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
>> people
>> are using in their production environments.
>>
>> I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required
>> version
>> as 5.2.11.
>>
> [snip]
>
>> I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4
>> and
>> newer.
>>
>> I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
>> determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
>>
>
>> cat /etc/redhat-release
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.3 (Tikanga)
>
>> php -v
> PHP 5.1.6 (cli) (built: Feb 26 2009 07:01:12)
> Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
> Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies
>
>> yum list php
> Loaded plugins: downloadonly, rhnplugin, security
> Excluding Packages in global exclude list
> Finished
> Installed Packages
> php.x86_64
> 5.1.6-23.2.el5_3
> installed
>
> I wouldn't have thought this to be too uncommon.

I stand corrected... I also maintain a CentOS 5 system. I much prefer
apt over yum though and so when the choice is mine I go with Debian.
Debian 4 has PHP 5.2.0.

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
> determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.

I used to write software for 4.1 and above but I am now dropping PHP 4
and will only write for PHP 5 and above. I would still write for PHP4 if
someone would request a custom job but everything else will be 5.

My dev machine is running PHP 5.3 with Suhosin-Patch (ARCH Linux) and my
main server is currently running PHP 5.1 (CentOS 5)

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP people
> are using in their production environments.
>
> I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required version
> as 5.2.11.
>
> http://pecl.php.net/package/solr/
>
> However, most of the PHP users that want to use it are unable to do so
> because the PHP version in the PROD environments is below 5.2.11
>
> They are also nervous about upgrading to newer versions as it will require
> some regression testing.
>
> In my production environment I am using 5.3.0 and most of the people that I
> have contacted seems to be running 5.2.10
>
> When I released the extension, I did all my regression tests against PHP
> 5.2.11 and now I am considering doing regression tests against 5.2.4
> (released 30 August 2007) and newer versions so that I can set the minimum
> required version to 5.2.4 in order to accommodate more people.
>
> I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4 and
> newer.
>
> I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
> determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
>
> Thanks.
>
Home/Dev: 5.2.15
Web: 5.1.6 (probably should update)

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>>
> Home/Dev: 5.2.15
> Web: 5.1.6 (probably should update)
>

O.K. so 5.2.15 doesn't exist :-( That is the Zend debugger version I
have. I actually have Home/Dev: 5.2.4.

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
> people are using in their production environments.

A few days late to answer perhaps, but in case you still want another
reply: I use 5.2.6, the version that comes with Debian "Lenny". I do not
usually install anything from outside the official Debian archives, makes
my life much easier this way.

[..]

> I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4
> and newer.

That would make sense for us Debian users at least, as explained above.
Other distros I'm not sure about.

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, O. Lavell wrote:

> Israel Ekpo wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
> > people are using in their production environments.
>
> A few days late to answer perhaps, but in case you still want another
> reply: I use 5.2.6, the version that comes with Debian "Lenny". I do not
> usually install anything from outside the official Debian archives, makes
> my life much easier this way.
>
> [..]
>
> > I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4
> > and newer.
>
> That would make sense for us Debian users at least, as explained above.
> Other distros I'm not sure about.
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Thanks.

I am still looking for responses. So you are not late.

I just finishing testing against 5.2.10 down to 5.2.4. I am not sure how
many people are still using versions between 5.2.0 and 5.2.3

I would like to know those ones too

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Israel Ekpo wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, O. Lavell wrote:
>
> > Israel Ekpo wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP
> > > people are using in their production environments.
> >
> > A few days late to answer perhaps, but in case you still want another
> > reply: I use 5.2.6, the version that comes with Debian "Lenny". I do not
> > usually install anything from outside the official Debian archives, makes
> > my life much easier this way.
> >
> > [..]
> >
> > > I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at
> 5.2.4
> > > and newer.
> >
> > That would make sense for us Debian users at least, as explained above.
> > Other distros I'm not sure about.
> >
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> Thanks.
>
> I am still looking for responses. So you are not late.
>
> I just finishing testing against 5.2.10 down to 5.2.4. I am not sure how
> many people are still using versions between 5.2.0 and 5.2.3
>
> I would like to know those ones too
>
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>

Hi!

I develop for 4.3.10 and 5.2.6 at work.
At home I use 5.2.9, it was installed by xubuntu

Our hosting providers have 5.2.0 or 5.2.4

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> I just finishing testing against 5.2.10 down to 5.2.4. I am not sure how
> many people are still using versions between 5.2.0 and 5.2.3
> I would like to know those ones too

Well anybody running CentOS 5 or RedHat Linux Enterprise 5 using the
official repo will be using PHP 5.1.x so you might want to thing twice
about going any higher then that.

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RE: Re: What PHP version are you using?

From: John Black
> Israel Ekpo wrote:
>> I just finishing testing against 5.2.10 down to 5.2.4. I am not sure
how
>> many people are still using versions between 5.2.0 and 5.2.3
>> I would like to know those ones too
>=20
> Well anybody running CentOS 5 or RedHat Linux Enterprise 5 using the=20
> official repo will be using PHP 5.1.x so you might want to thing twice

> about going any higher then that.

I just checked the Red Hat 5.4 manifest and it shows php-5.1.6-23.el5 -
php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3. CentOS simply repackages the Red Hat kit without
the proprietary bits. I don't understand why they are so far behind on a
build that was just released last month, but our hosting service only
provides what's in the official release.

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

Bob McConnell wrote:
> I just checked the Red Hat 5.4 manifest and it shows php-5.1.6-23.el5 -
> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3. CentOS simply repackages the Red Hat kit without
> the proprietary bits. I don't understand why they are so far behind on a
> build that was just released last month, but our hosting service only
> provides what's in the official release.

I just check the CentOS repo and the repo lists
php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3.x86_64.rpm as latest.
So CentOS is as upto date as RedHat, the way it should be.

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, John Black wrote:

> Bob McConnell wrote:
>
>> I just checked the Red Hat 5.4 manifest and it shows php-5.1.6-23.el5 -
>> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3. CentOS simply repackages the Red Hat kit without
>> the proprietary bits. I don't understand why they are so far behind on a
>> build that was just released last month, but our hosting service only
>> provides what's in the official release.
>>
>
> I just check the CentOS repo and the repo lists
> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3.x86_64.rpm as latest.
> So CentOS is as upto date as RedHat, the way it should be.
>
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That is not good.

5.1.6 was released in August 2006.

More than 3 years ago. There are a lot of bug fixes since then

http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php

It looks like the php libraries are not maintained in CentOS and Red Hat
Repositories.
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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> That is not good.
> 5.1.6 was released in August 2006.
> More than 3 years ago. There are a lot of bug fixes since then
> http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php
> It looks like the php libraries are not maintained in CentOS and Red Hat
> Repositories.

I posted the current RHEL version because, personally, I would look at
the latest release of one of the biggest Enterprise class Linux vendors
before deciding on a PHP version.

The larger distros only tend to upgrade packages when required because
other packages need them or when a security issues has been discovered.
Other times they will patch in security fixes applied to packages.
The tradeoff here is that you get something older but the system you
receive is solid.

I run ARCH Linux on my home system because I like to test the latest
releases BUT I want stable software on my servers.

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, John Black wrote:
>
>> Bob McConnell wrote:
>>
>>> I just checked the Red Hat 5.4 manifest and it shows php-5.1.6-23.el5 -
>>> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3. CentOS simply repackages the Red Hat kit without
>>> the proprietary bits. I don't understand why they are so far behind on a
>>> build that was just released last month, but our hosting service only
>>> provides what's in the official release.
>>>
>> I just check the CentOS repo and the repo lists
>> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3.x86_64.rpm as latest.
>> So CentOS is as upto date as RedHat, the way it should be.
>
> That is not good.
> 5.1.6 was released in August 2006.
> More than 3 years ago. There are a lot of bug fixes since then
> http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php
> It looks like the php libraries are not maintained in CentOS and Red Hat
> Repositories.

There are very good reasons why a 'long time supported' build does not
keep replacing packages all the time. It is gauranteed NOT to change
them, so compatibility problems introduced by PHP such as the 'date'
problem will not come up and bit ANY of their customers.

I believe that there is a new version due on a couple of 'long time
supported' distributions, but the current 'instability' with PHP5.3
potentially requiring changes to deployed applications is the sort of
thing that these builds are supposed to avoid. I'll be staying with
5.2.x for a while simply because I know that is stable with my current
code base.

So it IS good that a stable and understood build of PHP is used as no
one would gaurantee that later builds will not introduce problems -
especially following a change of minor versions.

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RE: Re: What PHP version are you using?

From: Lester Caine
> Israel Ekpo wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, John Black
wrote:
>>=20
>>> Bob McConnell wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just checked the Red Hat 5.4 manifest and it shows
php-5.1.6-23.el5 -
>>>> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3. CentOS simply repackages the Red Hat kit
without
>>>> the proprietary bits. I don't understand why they are so far behind
on a
>>>> build that was just released last month, but our hosting service
only
>>>> provides what's in the official release.
>>>>
>>> I just check the CentOS repo and the repo lists
>>> php-5.1.6-23.2.el5_3.x86_64.rpm as latest.
>>> So CentOS is as upto date as RedHat, the way it should be.
>>=20
>> That is not good.
>> 5.1.6 was released in August 2006.
>> More than 3 years ago. There are a lot of bug fixes since then
>> http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php
>> It looks like the php libraries are not maintained in CentOS and Red
Hat
>> Repositories.
>=20
> There are very good reasons why a 'long time supported' build does not

> keep replacing packages all the time. It is gauranteed NOT to change=20
> them, so compatibility problems introduced by PHP such as the 'date'=20
> problem will not come up and bit ANY of their customers.
>=20
> I believe that there is a new version due on a couple of 'long time=20
> supported' distributions, but the current 'instability' with PHP5.3=20
> potentially requiring changes to deployed applications is the sort of=20
> thing that these builds are supposed to avoid. I'll be staying with=20
> 5.2.x for a while simply because I know that is stable with my current

> code base.
>=20
> So it IS good that a stable and understood build of PHP is used as no=20
> one would gaurantee that later builds will not introduce problems -=20
> especially following a change of minor versions.

I agree that stability is good, but at some point reality must enter the
picture. Continuing to distribute an obsolete package that is no longer
supported nor maintained is not good for anyone, least of all the users
of those systems. First, the distribution must also include the obsolete
documentation to match the versions it includes, since that is no longer
available elsewhere and is difficult to identify when it does. In
addition, newer features are assumed by many of the other tools,
frameworks and applications that are used on or with those systems, none
of which are likely to work with these old versions.

In our case we require our hosting service to install 5.2.10, which
costs us extra in both time and money. But several of the other third
party components used with our applications assume the availability of
features in that release. They simply won't work with older versions.
That minimum is reviewed every time we consider adding new capabilities
to our systems, which generally happens every other month. We already
have developers looking forward to 5.3 and drooling over the
possibilities. I'm just happy that we will finally rid ourselves of some
of the magic "features".

Bob McConnell

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Re: What PHP version are you using?

Israel Ekpo wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP people
> are using in their production environments.
>
> I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required version
> as 5.2.11.
>
> http://pecl.php.net/package/solr/
>
> However, most of the PHP users that want to use it are unable to do so
> because the PHP version in the PROD environments is below 5.2.11
>
> They are also nervous about upgrading to newer versions as it will require
> some regression testing.
>
> In my production environment I am using 5.3.0 and most of the people that I
> have contacted seems to be running 5.2.10
>
> When I released the extension, I did all my regression tests against PHP
> 5.2.11 and now I am considering doing regression tests against 5.2.4
> (released 30 August 2007) and newer versions so that I can set the minimum
> required version to 5.2.4 in order to accommodate more people.
>
> I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4 and
> newer.
>
> I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
> determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
>
> Thanks.
>

PHP 5.2.4-2 on most production boxes
mixed 5.1.6, 5.2 and 5.3's in dev environments

+ interesting release; wish I'd known spent part of the first week in
october doing a SOLR integration in PHP *sigh* - on to virtuoso now

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Re: Re: What PHP version are you using?

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On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 14:37 +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote:

> Israel Ekpo wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I just want to conduct a quick survey to find out what version of PHP people
> > are using in their production environments.
> >
> > I have a PHP extension for Solr that I have set the minimum required version
> > as 5.2.11.
> >
> > http://pecl.php.net/package/solr/
> >
> > However, most of the PHP users that want to use it are unable to do so
> > because the PHP version in the PROD environments is below 5.2.11
> >
> > They are also nervous about upgrading to newer versions as it will require
> > some regression testing.
> >
> > In my production environment I am using 5.3.0 and most of the people that I
> > have contacted seems to be running 5.2.10
> >
> > When I released the extension, I did all my regression tests against PHP
> > 5.2.11 and now I am considering doing regression tests against 5.2.4
> > (released 30 August 2007) and newer versions so that I can set the minimum
> > required version to 5.2.4 in order to accommodate more people.
> >
> > I cannot go below 5.2.0 though but I am thinking about starting at 5.2.4 and
> > newer.
> >
> > I would really appreciate some feedback as it will be useful in helping me
> > determine which PHP version numbers to do my regression tests against.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> PHP 5.2.4-2 on most production boxes
> mixed 5.1.6, 5.2 and 5.3's in dev environments
>
> + interesting release; wish I'd known spent part of the first week in
> october doing a SOLR integration in PHP *sigh* - on to virtuoso now
>
>


5.2.9 on my home laptop and main box (used for devel)
4.4.7 on my own site (stupid hosting company are useless!)
and a mix of 5.x's on the sites I develop

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk



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