Web Design

Web Design

am 25.03.2010 14:05:56 von Parham Doustdar

Hello there,
I am a blind, Iranian web developer. I have worked with PHP for about a
year, and have created websites for clients who, due to their close bonds
with me (E.G. as a friend, relative, etc) has been able to walk through
every step of the website design stages with me (E.G. placement of
navigation menu, footers, headers, content, etc). I considered myself a
beginner, stepping towards the stage marked "intermediate". Today, though,
my idea of where I stand made a jarring change.

I took a look at websites offering freelance jobs, namely
http://www.freelancer.com and http://www.project4hire.com. I saw instantly
that what a client expects of me is to just "get it right", meaning, don't
call them and ask where should everything be, what color it should be, etc,
etc. Realizing that I am far behind due to my blindness, and dismayed, I
contacted my other blind friends that have done web development. I have been
offered one solution that has always worked: find partner(s).

I thought long and hard on this, trying to find out a place I could reach to
other fellow web developers, and in the end of the day, I came up with the
PHP.general mailing list that has always helped me in the past.

So, in the end, here is my question. Is anyone willing to work with an
Iranian PHP developer that has experience with cooperative development
tools, enthusiasm towards groupwork, is a fast-learner (meaning is willing
to read documentations, ask questions, etc), and has good
writing/reading/speaking knowledge, and is completely blind? If so, would
you be kind as to email me off-list?

Thank you,
Parham Doustdar

P.S.: Please, if this is off-topic, do not shout at me. I tried going to
http://news.php.net to find any rules regarding what is and isn't allowed on
the list, but found none. This is of course my shortcoming, but I prefer
being contacted off-list, rather than being bombarded by messages that read,
"read the rules" or "just fucking google it"; believe me, I have tried.
Thank you once again, and sorry for the long email.



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Re: Web Design

am 25.03.2010 18:55:07 von Daniel Brown

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 09:05, Parham Doustdar wrote:
>
> P.S.: Please, if this is off-topic, do not shout at me. I tried going to
> http://news.php.net to find any rules regarding what is and isn't allowed on
> the list, but found none. This is of course my shortcoming, but I prefer
> being contacted off-list, rather than being bombarded by messages that read,
> "read the rules" or "just fucking google it"; believe me, I have tried.
> Thank you once again, and sorry for the long email.

Such a well-formed request is absolutely permitted here, Parham.
I wish you the best of luck in finding a partner. I would also
recommend checking forums such as PHP Builder
(http://www.phpbuilder.com/) and other such places.

Hopefully others here in the community will be able to offer even
better suggestions as well.

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Re: Web Design

am 28.03.2010 20:06:57 von Nathan Rixham

Hi Parham,

Long term, I would suggest viewing this as an ideal opportunity to move
to strictly back end PHP only; thus negating and skirting around the
visual issues; it is often more fun this way any way!

Jobs such as web service integrations; payment service provider
integrations and similar provide a broad scope and some enjoyable jobs.

Additionally, there are often many good bug fixing and optimisation jobs
that stay well clear of the visual side of output.

I'm sure many will be keen to work with you, I know that I for one do
not view your blindness as a disability when it comes to coding, and I'm
hoping that I'll have the chance to work with you next time a suitable
project arises.

Many Regards,

Nathan

Parham Doustdar wrote:
> Hello there,
> I am a blind, Iranian web developer. I have worked with PHP for about a
> year, and have created websites for clients who, due to their close bonds
> with me (E.G. as a friend, relative, etc) has been able to walk through
> every step of the website design stages with me (E.G. placement of
> navigation menu, footers, headers, content, etc). I considered myself a
> beginner, stepping towards the stage marked "intermediate". Today, though,
> my idea of where I stand made a jarring change.
>
> I took a look at websites offering freelance jobs, namely
> http://www.freelancer.com and http://www.project4hire.com. I saw instantly
> that what a client expects of me is to just "get it right", meaning, don't
> call them and ask where should everything be, what color it should be, etc,
> etc. Realizing that I am far behind due to my blindness, and dismayed, I
> contacted my other blind friends that have done web development. I have been
> offered one solution that has always worked: find partner(s).
>
> I thought long and hard on this, trying to find out a place I could reach to
> other fellow web developers, and in the end of the day, I came up with the
> PHP.general mailing list that has always helped me in the past.
>
> So, in the end, here is my question. Is anyone willing to work with an
> Iranian PHP developer that has experience with cooperative development
> tools, enthusiasm towards groupwork, is a fast-learner (meaning is willing
> to read documentations, ask questions, etc), and has good
> writing/reading/speaking knowledge, and is completely blind? If so, would
> you be kind as to email me off-list?
>
> Thank you,
> Parham Doustdar
>
> P.S.: Please, if this is off-topic, do not shout at me. I tried going to
> http://news.php.net to find any rules regarding what is and isn't allowed on
> the list, but found none. This is of course my shortcoming, but I prefer
> being contacted off-list, rather than being bombarded by messages that read,
> "read the rules" or "just fucking google it"; believe me, I have tried.
> Thank you once again, and sorry for the long email.
>
>


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Re: Re: Web Design

am 28.03.2010 20:38:28 von Andre Polykanine

Hello Nathan, Parham and all,

Actually, I confirm that you can code if
you're blind. Parham, you have probably
seen me on the other accessibility-related
lists, so no need to say that I'm blind
myself, too). I have a chance to have a
wife who is also a programmer and
designer, so we make our projects always
together and I don't bother myself with
the visual things.
By the way, I have looked at Mantis bugtracking system. It seems to me
rather accessible except of the visual CAPTCHA needed during the
signup process. Will think what to do: either to search for another
solution or to modify the code implementing a logical CAPTCHA
developed by ourselves).
Anyway, glad that there are people like you, Nathan, here around.

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----- Original message -----
From: Nathan Rixham
To: Parham Doustdar
Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 9:06:57 PM
Subject: [PHP] Re: Web Design

Hi Parham,

Long term, I would suggest viewing this as an ideal opportunity to move
to strictly back end PHP only; thus negating and skirting around the
visual issues; it is often more fun this way any way!

Jobs such as web service integrations; payment service provider
integrations and similar provide a broad scope and some enjoyable jobs.

Additionally, there are often many good bug fixing and optimisation jobs
that stay well clear of the visual side of output.

I'm sure many will be keen to work with you, I know that I for one do
not view your blindness as a disability when it comes to coding, and I'm
hoping that I'll have the chance to work with you next time a suitable
project arises.

Many Regards,

Nathan

Parham Doustdar wrote:
> Hello there,
> I am a blind, Iranian web developer. I have worked with PHP for about a
> year, and have created websites for clients who, due to their close bonds
> with me (E.G. as a friend, relative, etc) has been able to walk through
> every step of the website design stages with me (E.G. placement of
> navigation menu, footers, headers, content, etc). I considered myself a
> beginner, stepping towards the stage marked "intermediate". Today, though,
> my idea of where I stand made a jarring change.
>
> I took a look at websites offering freelance jobs, namely
> http://www.freelancer.com and http://www.project4hire.com. I saw instantly
> that what a client expects of me is to just "get it right", meaning, don't
> call them and ask where should everything be, what color it should be, etc,
> etc. Realizing that I am far behind due to my blindness, and dismayed, I
> contacted my other blind friends that have done web development. I have been
> offered one solution that has always worked: find partner(s).
>
> I thought long and hard on this, trying to find out a place I could reach to
> other fellow web developers, and in the end of the day, I came up with the
> PHP.general mailing list that has always helped me in the past.
>
> So, in the end, here is my question. Is anyone willing to work with an
> Iranian PHP developer that has experience with cooperative development
> tools, enthusiasm towards groupwork, is a fast-learner (meaning is willing
> to read documentations, ask questions, etc), and has good
> writing/reading/speaking knowledge, and is completely blind? If so, would
> you be kind as to email me off-list?
>
> Thank you,
> Parham Doustdar
>
> P.S.: Please, if this is off-topic, do not shout at me. I tried going to
> http://news.php.net to find any rules regarding what is and isn't allowed on
> the list, but found none. This is of course my shortcoming, but I prefer
> being contacted off-list, rather than being bombarded by messages that read,
> "read the rules" or "just fucking google it"; believe me, I have tried.
> Thank you once again, and sorry for the long email.
>
>


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