Windows binaries
am 03.04.2010 03:05:44 von Todd Oberly
Hi,
Does anyone know why there isn't a VC9-compiled binary for PHP 5.2.13 ? The PHP application I'm using isn't currently compatible with PHP 5.3.x, so I need a 5.2 build, but it will also be running in IIS 6. What is my best option? Use the VC6 x86 Thread Safe build of 5.2.13, use the older VC9 x86 Thread Safe build of 5.2.12, or use something else? (BTW, what is the difference between the Windows binaries at www.php.net vs. the binaries from windows.php.net ? GCC builds vs. VS?) Do the security fixes in 5.2.13 always win out over stability?
(This feels like an FAQ, but I couldn't find anybody else asking the same question...)
Thanks for your insights!
Todd
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RE: Windows binaries
am 03.04.2010 04:05:05 von Venkat Raman Don
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Re: Windows binaries
am 03.04.2010 12:12:26 von Pierre Joye
hi,
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Todd Oberly wrote=
:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know why there isn't a VC9-compiled binary for PHP 5.2.13 ? =
=A0The PHP application I'm using isn't currently compatible with PHP 5.3.x,=
so I need a 5.2 build, but it will also be running in IIS 6. =A0What is my=
best option? =A0Use the VC6 x86 Thread Safe build of 5.2.13, use the older=
VC9 x86 Thread Safe build of 5.2.12, or use something else? =A0(BTW, what =
is the difference between the Windows binaries at www.php.net vs. the binar=
ies from windows.php.net ? GCC builds vs. VS?) =A0Do the security fixes in =
5.2.13 always win out over stability?
5.2.13 is stable. The compiler version used to build PHP is not
important when PHP is run via FastCGI (which is the case for IIS).It
also does not need threas safety, that means that you should download
the NTS versions (5.2.13 NTS).
There are no difference between www.php.net and windows.php.net
binaries. PHP 5.3 and later will be available only via windows.php.net
(easier to add more versions, document, etc.).
The installer supports IIS6, you can use it to install PHP on your IIS
servers. Or use the web platform installer which is a wrapper around
our installer.
Cheers,
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Re: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 06:27:15 von Todd Oberly
-----Original Message-----
>From: Pierre Joye
>Sent: Apr 3, 2010 6:12 AM
>To: Todd Oberly
>Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net
>Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>
>On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Todd Oberly wrote:
Thanks for all the replies, gentlemen!
>> Does anyone know why there isn't a VC9-compiled binary for PHP 5.2.13 ? The PHP application I'm using isn't currently compatible with PHP 5.3.x, so I need a 5.2 build, but it will also be running in IIS 6. What is my best option? Use the VC6 x86 Thread Safe build of 5.2.13, use the older VC9 x86 Thread Safe build of 5.2.12, or use something else? (BTW, what is the difference between the Windows binaries at www.php.net vs. the binaries from windows.php.net ? GCC builds vs. VS?) Do the security fixes in 5.2.13 always win out over stability?
>
>5.2.13 is stable. The compiler version used to build PHP is not
>important when PHP is run via FastCGI (which is the case for IIS).It
>also does not need threas safety, that means that you should download
>the NTS versions (5.2.13 NTS).
I've heard of FastCGI, but never used it before. If I want to get the application running ASAP without FastCGI (please don't argue), what would be the effect of using the thread-safe VC6 build of 5.2.13? Just a decrease in performance?
>There are no difference between www.php.net and windows.php.net
>binaries. PHP 5.3 and later will be available only via windows.php.net
>(easier to add more versions, document, etc.).
Yes, less confusing that way. ;)
Thanks again,
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RE: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 06:37:57 von Venkat Raman Don
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Re: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 12:08:03 von Pierre Joye
hi,
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Todd Oberly wrote=
:
> I've heard of FastCGI, but never used it before. =A0If I want to get the =
application running ASAP without FastCGI (please don't argue), what would b=
e the effect of using the thread-safe VC6 build of 5.2.13? =A0Just a decrea=
se in performance?
PHP TS is slightly slower than PHP NTS but not in a significant
manner. However the stability of the ISAPI may affect your sites much
more than the TS vs NTS delta. Many crashes have worst side effects
than slowdowns.
Cheers,
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Re: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 19:44:09 von pan
Venkat Raman Don wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Okay I am not going to argue. The other way of hosting PHP is using
>> the ISAPI DLL. Disadvantages are apart from the ones already
>> mentioned:
>> 1. ISAPI way of hosting PHP is deprecated in PHP5.3 and so you will
>> not be able to leverage all the good features introduced in PHP 5.3.
>> Details at http://www.confoo.ca/uploads/slides/php-5-3-awesome.zip.
>> 2. ISAPI way of running PHP on IIS is not supported by Microsoft. We
>> support only IIS FastCGI and using IIS FastCGI will give you
>> Microsoft Support as well as dedicated team who are committed to
>> make PHP running on IIS a great experience.
>> 3. We have developed WINCACHE which is a PHP accelerator (a major
>> boost to PHP performance) and that doesn't work on ISAPI. Details at
>> http://pecl.php.net/package/WinCache.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don.
>>
Hi,
Where can wincache.dll be downloaded?
Any progress on the 1.5 year project to restore windows pecl?
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RE: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 19:51:50 von Venkat Raman Don
WINCACHE DLL can be downloaded from http://www.iis.net/expand/WinCacheForPh=
p. The links here will take you to source forge actually. The download is a=
vailable for both PHP5.2 as well as PHP5.3 NTS version. Please chose what i=
s appropriate for you.
Most of the extension can be downloaded from http://downloads.php.net/pierr=
e/.
Thanks,
Don.
-----Original Message-----
From: pan [mailto:pan@syix.com]=20
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:44 AM
To: php-windows@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
Venkat Raman Don wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Okay I am not going to argue. The other way of hosting PHP is using
>> the ISAPI DLL. Disadvantages are apart from the ones already
>> mentioned:
>> 1. ISAPI way of hosting PHP is deprecated in PHP5.3 and so you will
>> not be able to leverage all the good features introduced in PHP 5.3.
>> Details at http://www.confoo.ca/uploads/slides/php-5-3-awesome.zip.
>> 2. ISAPI way of running PHP on IIS is not supported by Microsoft. We
>> support only IIS FastCGI and using IIS FastCGI will give you
>> Microsoft Support as well as dedicated team who are committed to
>> make PHP running on IIS a great experience.
>> 3. We have developed WINCACHE which is a PHP accelerator (a major
>> boost to PHP performance) and that doesn't work on ISAPI. Details at
>> http://pecl.php.net/package/WinCache.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don.
>>
Hi,
Where can wincache.dll be downloaded?
Any progress on the 1.5 year project to restore windows pecl?
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Re: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 23:45:19 von Niel Archer
> Hi,
>
> Okay I am not going to argue. The other way of hosting PHP is using the ISAPI DLL. Disadvantages are apart from the ones already mentioned:
> 1. ISAPI way of hosting PHP is deprecated in PHP5.3 and so you will not be able to leverage all the good features introduced in PHP 5.3. Details at http://www.confoo.ca/uploads/slides/php-5-3-awesome.zip.
I have seen this assertion twice now (Previously only from Zend). Please
let me know where I can find the announcement to this effect, as I can
find no mention of this at http://php.net/migration53,
http://php.net/releases/5_3_0.php,
or in the change logs.
> 2. ISAPI way of running PHP on IIS is not supported by Microsoft. We support only IIS FastCGI and using IIS FastCGI will give you Microsoft Support as well as dedicated team who are committed to make PHP running on IIS a great experience.
> 3. We have developed WINCACHE which is a PHP accelerator (a major boost to PHP performance) and that doesn't work on ISAPI. Details at http://pecl.php.net/package/WinCache.
>
> Thanks,
> Don.
>
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Re: Windows binaries
am 05.04.2010 23:51:15 von Pierre Joye
hi,
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Niel Archer wrote:
> I have seen this assertion twice now (Previously only from Zend). Please
> let =A0me know where I can find the announcement to this effect, as I can
> find no mention of this at http://php.net/migration53,
> http://php.net/releases/5_3_0.php,
> or in the change logs.
The ISAPI is not available anymore in php 5.3 or later.
Cheers,
--=20
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Re: Windows binaries
am 06.04.2010 00:42:16 von Niel Archer
> hi,
>=20
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Niel Archer wrote:
>=20
> > I have seen this assertion twice now (Previously only from Zend). Pleas=
e
> > let =A0me know where I can find the announcement to this effect, as I c=
an
> > find no mention of this at http://php.net/migration53,
> > http://php.net/releases/5_3_0.php,
> > or in the change logs.
>=20
> The ISAPI is not available anymore in php 5.3 or later.
Thanks. Can't say I'd noticed, obviously.
> Cheers,
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> Pierre
>=20
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Re: Windows binaries
am 06.04.2010 10:49:52 von Richard Quadling
On 5 April 2010 18:51, Venkat Raman Don wrote:
> Most of the extension can be downloaded from http://downloads.php.net/pierre/.
That's great. But are there any plans or timescales on getting
pecl.php.net and the win32 snapshots back up?
If so, has anything been made public regarding this?
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Re: Windows binaries
am 06.04.2010 12:06:52 von Ferenc Kovacs
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Richard Quadling
wrote:
> On 5 April 2010 18:51, Venkat Raman Don wrote:
> > Most of the extension can be downloaded from
> http://downloads.php.net/pierre/.
>
> That's great. But are there any plans or timescales on getting
> pecl.php.net and the win32 snapshots back up?
>
> If so, has anything been made public regarding this?
>
> The funny thing, that I remembered that somebody asked the same, and I
tried to find that conversation.
Surprisingly, it was you a year ago:
http://old.nabble.com/Win32-PECL-pre-built-binaries.-td23293 468.html
I also would like to know what is the current status for pecl4windows and
how can we help.
Tyrael
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Re: Windows binaries
am 06.04.2010 12:10:40 von Pierre Joye
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Richard Quadling
> wrote:
>
>> On 5 April 2010 18:51, Venkat Raman Don wrote:
>> > Most of the extension can be downloaded from
>> http://downloads.php.net/pierre/.
>>
>> That's great. But are there any plans or timescales on getting
>> pecl.php.net and the win32 snapshots back up?
>>
>> If so, has anything been made public regarding this?
>>
>> The funny thing, that I remembered that somebody asked the same, and I
> tried to find that conversation.
> Surprisingly, it was you a year ago:
> http://old.nabble.com/Win32-PECL-pre-built-binaries.-td23293 468.html
> I also would like to know what is the current status for pecl4windows and
> how can we help.
You can get most of the extensions here: http://downloads.php.net/pierre/
About helping, well, if you have time (really have time) then let me
know. Some help is always welcome, especially for the web frontends
part.
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 06:34:30 von Todd Oberly
-----Original Message-----
>From: Pierre Joye
>Sent: Apr 5, 2010 6:08 AM
>To: Todd Oberly
>Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net
>Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>
>On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Todd Oberly wrot=
e:
>
>> I've heard of FastCGI, but never used it before. Â If I want to get =
the application running ASAP without FastCGI (please don't argue), what wou=
ld be the effect of using the thread-safe VC6 build of 5.2.13? Â Just a=
decrease in performance?
>
>PHP TS is slightly slower than PHP NTS but not in a significant
>manner. However the stability of the ISAPI may affect your sites much
>more than the TS vs NTS delta. Many crashes have worst side effects
>than slowdowns.
A short follow-up. I had the PHP application package running through ISAPI=
for a short time, but then noticed errors like
Faulting application w3wp.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module unkno=
wn, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x01b45c80.
in the Event Viewer. Soooo after some investigation, FastCGI is now the so=
lution. :) But I then noticed something strange, but am not sure if it's r=
elated. I then started seeing a warning in my browser when running a certa=
in aspect of the script. I'd done this a number of times before, but saw n=
o errors. Could there be something about the ISAPI interface that was bloc=
king error output?
Thanks,
Todd
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RE: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 06:40:35 von Venkat Raman Don
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 06:54:39 von Ferenc Kovacs
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Todd Oberly wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Pierre Joye
> >Sent: Apr 5, 2010 6:08 AM
> >To: Todd Oberly
> >Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net
> >Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Todd Oberly
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've heard of FastCGI, but never used it before. If I want to get the
> application running ASAP without FastCGI (please don't argue), what would be
> the effect of using the thread-safe VC6 build of 5.2.13? Just a decrease in
> performance?
> >
> >PHP TS is slightly slower than PHP NTS but not in a significant
> >manner. However the stability of the ISAPI may affect your sites much
> >more than the TS vs NTS delta. Many crashes have worst side effects
> >than slowdowns.
>
> A short follow-up. I had the PHP application package running through ISAPI
> for a short time, but then noticed errors like
>
> Faulting application w3wp.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x01b45c80.
>
> in the Event Viewer. Soooo after some investigation, FastCGI is now the
> solution. :) But I then noticed something strange, but am not sure if it's
> related. I then started seeing a warning in my browser when running a
> certain aspect of the script. I'd done this a number of times before, but
> saw no errors. Could there be something about the ISAPI interface that was
> blocking error output?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd
>
>
http://www.google.hu/search?hl=hu&client=firefox-a&hs=WdP&rl s=org.mozilla%3Ahu%3Aofficial&q=InstanceMaxRequests+vs+PHP_F CGI_MAX_REQUESTS&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
There is a known problem, if you set the PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS lower than
the InstanceMaxRequests then sometimes the InstanceMaxRequests will be
reached, the fastcgi PM manager will restart the worker, and the visitor
will get a http 500, Internal Server Error.
Others will correct me, if I'm missing something.
Tyrael
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 16:12:35 von Todd Oberly
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ferenc Kovacs
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 12:53 AM
>To: Todd Oberly
>Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>
>On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Todd Oberly wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Pierre Joye
>> >Sent: Apr 5, 2010 6:08 AM
>> >To: Todd Oberly
>> >Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net
>> >Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>> >
>> >On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Todd Oberly
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've heard of FastCGI, but never used it before. If I want to get the
>> application running ASAP without FastCGI (please don't argue), what would be
>> the effect of using the thread-safe VC6 build of 5.2.13? Just a decrease in
>> performance?
>> >
>> >PHP TS is slightly slower than PHP NTS but not in a significant
>> >manner. However the stability of the ISAPI may affect your sites much
>> >more than the TS vs NTS delta. Many crashes have worst side effects
>> >than slowdowns.
>>
>> A short follow-up. I had the PHP application package running through ISAPI
>> for a short time, but then noticed errors like
>>
>> Faulting application w3wp.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
>> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x01b45c80.
>>
>> in the Event Viewer. Soooo after some investigation, FastCGI is now the
>> solution. :) But I then noticed something strange, but am not sure if it's
>> related. I then started seeing a warning in my browser when running a
>> certain aspect of the script. I'd done this a number of times before, but
>> saw no errors. Could there be something about the ISAPI interface that was
>> blocking error output?
>>
>>
>http://www.google.hu/search?hl=hu&client=firefox-a&hs=WdP&r ls=org.mozilla%3Ahu%3Aofficial&q=InstanceMaxRequests+vs+PHP_ FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>There is a known problem, if you set the PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS lower than
>the InstanceMaxRequests then sometimes the InstanceMaxRequests will be
>reached, the fastcgi PM manager will restart the worker, and the visitor
>will get a http 500, Internal Server Error.
>Others will correct me, if I'm missing something.
>
>Tyrael
I think I've described this poorly, so let me try again. This is how it occurred:
1) I installed the PHP scripts using the vendor-recommended ISAPI method, and verified that it worked completely. The scripts are some glue between a commercial application and IIS for sending mobile phone clients to a web page and allowing users to download them.
2) I then installed and configured the FastCGI system, and upgraded PHP to the recommended 5.2.13 non-thread-safe version. I'm not an expert with IIS, so it took some trial and error to get it working. At no time did I modify any PHP code or change any error logging settings in php.ini.
3) Upon testing this new setup, I started seeing a PHP warning when trying to download a client: "PHP Warning: Missing argument 4..."
The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these errors seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. Unless the difference was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? I could be wrong. The situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a complaint.
Thanks again,
Todd
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RE: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 16:15:24 von Tommy Pham
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Oberly [mailto:taoberly@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:13 AM
> To: php-windows@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>=20
>=20
> The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor
> (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these =
errors
> seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. Unless the difference
> was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? I could be wrong. The
> situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a
> complaint.
>=20
> Thanks again,
>=20
> Todd
>=20
The problem is not so much as PHP version upgrade but rather ISAPI > =
FastCGI. Another example of broken app is phpmyadmin. Works fine with =
ISAPI configuration but breaks with FastCGI.
Regards,
Tommy
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RE: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 16:23:54 von Todd Oberly
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tommy Pham
>Sent: Apr 8, 2010 10:15 AM
>To: 'Todd Oberly' , php-windows@lists.php.net
>Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Todd Oberly [mailto:taoberly@mindspring.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:13 AM
>> To: php-windows@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor
>> (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these errors
>> seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. Unless the difference
>> was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? I could be wrong. The
>> situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a
>> complaint.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Todd
>>
>
>The problem is not so much as PHP version upgrade but rather ISAPI > FastCGI. Another example of broken app is phpmyadmin. Works fine with ISAPI configuration but breaks with FastCGI.
>
>Regards,
>Tommy
Ah, so these types of issues aren't unheard of? Do you suspect the vendor will need to modify anything besides the function causing the warning?
Thanks,
Todd
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 16:38:31 von Ferenc Kovacs
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Todd Oberly wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Ferenc Kovacs
> >Sent: Apr 8, 2010 12:53 AM
> >To: Todd Oberly
> >Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
> >
> >On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Todd Oberly
> wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Pierre Joye
> >> >Sent: Apr 5, 2010 6:08 AM
> >> >To: Todd Oberly
> >> >Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net
> >> >Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Todd Oberly
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I've heard of FastCGI, but never used it before. If I want to get
> the
> >> application running ASAP without FastCGI (please don't argue), what
> would be
> >> the effect of using the thread-safe VC6 build of 5.2.13? Just a
> decrease in
> >> performance?
> >> >
> >> >PHP TS is slightly slower than PHP NTS but not in a significant
> >> >manner. However the stability of the ISAPI may affect your sites much
> >> >more than the TS vs NTS delta. Many crashes have worst side effects
> >> >than slowdowns.
> >>
> >> A short follow-up. I had the PHP application package running through
> ISAPI
> >> for a short time, but then noticed errors like
> >>
> >> Faulting application w3wp.exe, version 6.0.3790.3959, faulting module
> >> unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x01b45c80.
> >>
> >> in the Event Viewer. Soooo after some investigation, FastCGI is now the
> >> solution. :) But I then noticed something strange, but am not sure if
> it's
> >> related. I then started seeing a warning in my browser when running a
> >> certain aspect of the script. I'd done this a number of times before,
> but
> >> saw no errors. Could there be something about the ISAPI interface that
> was
> >> blocking error output?
> >>
> >>
> >
> http://www.google.hu/search?hl=hu&client=firefox-a&hs=WdP&rl s=org.mozilla%3Ahu%3Aofficial&q=InstanceMaxRequests+vs+PHP_F CGI_MAX_REQUESTS&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
> >There is a known problem, if you set the PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS lower than
> >the InstanceMaxRequests then sometimes the InstanceMaxRequests will be
> >reached, the fastcgi PM manager will restart the worker, and the visitor
> >will get a http 500, Internal Server Error.
> >Others will correct me, if I'm missing something.
> >
> >Tyrael
>
> I think I've described this poorly, so let me try again. This is how it
> occurred:
>
> 1) I installed the PHP scripts using the vendor-recommended ISAPI method,
> and verified that it worked completely. The scripts are some glue between a
> commercial application and IIS for sending mobile phone clients to a web
> page and allowing users to download them.
>
> 2) I then installed and configured the FastCGI system, and upgraded PHP to
> the recommended 5.2.13 non-thread-safe version. I'm not an expert with IIS,
> so it took some trial and error to get it working. At no time did I modify
> any PHP code or change any error logging settings in php.ini.
>
> 3) Upon testing this new setup, I started seeing a PHP warning when trying
> to download a client: "PHP Warning: Missing argument 4..."
>
> The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor (and
> also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these errors seem to
> have started upon installing FastCGI. Unless the difference was moving from
> PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? I could be wrong. The situation is under control,
> so this just an inquiry rather than a complaint.
>
> Could you check that your fastcgi php is using the same php.ini as the
previous ISAPI one?
I think that you either changed the content of the original php.ini (either
manualy or overwriting with a newer php.ini) or you configured differently
your new environment, and its using a different php.ini than it was used
before.
You should configure the display_errors and error_reporting directives in
your current php.ini to hide this kind of notice/warning/error messages from
your users.
If you are unsure about which php.ini is in use now, you can create a test
php file containinig
and it will print a lot of information, and you should look for the
Loaded Configuration File
and
Additional .ini files parsed
Tyrael
> Thanks again,
>
> Todd
>
>
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 16:42:22 von Ferenc Kovacs
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd Oberly [mailto:taoberly@mindspring.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:13 AM
> > To: php-windows@lists.php.net
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
> >
>
>
>
> >
> > The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor
> > (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these errors
> > seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. Unless the difference
> > was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? I could be wrong. The
> > situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a
> > complaint.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Todd
> >
>
> The problem is not so much as PHP version upgrade but rather ISAPI >
> FastCGI. Another example of broken app is phpmyadmin. Works fine with
> ISAPI configuration but breaks with FastCGI.
>
> I don't think so, if the error is present just doesn't displayed in the old
configuration but it does in the new, then I think this is a configuration
issue, and not a SAPI one.
btw: which phpmyadmin version are you using? I did heard of that kind of
report, but last weekend, when I was playing with a windows + apache +
fastcgi + php devel environment I successfuly installed the latest
phpmyadmin without running in any issue.
what are the symptoms, maybe they are IIS only?
Tyrael
> Regards,
> Tommy
>
>
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RE: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 17:23:00 von Tommy Pham
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The problem with FastCGI breaking certain apps is with IIS. =
Iâ=99ve always use PHP with Apache as module for both Windows and =
FreeBSD. Iâ=99ll see if it works for FastCGI with Apache on =
Windows. You can get to login screen (configured as cookie), but after =
a long while, I receive HTTP500 error. The same config works fine with =
phpbb, phppgadmin. The phpmyadmin version that Iâ=99m trying to =
get work is 3.3.1, although I have similar problems with previous =
versions of phpmyadmin when FastCGI came out even though I =
didnâ=99t try to troubleshoot it since it wasnâ=99t important =
at that time.
=20
Regards,
Tommy
=20
From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:42 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: Todd Oberly; php-windows@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
=20
=20
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Oberly [mailto:taoberly@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:13 AM
> To: php-windows@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>
>
> The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor
> (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these =
errors
> seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. Unless the difference
> was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? I could be wrong. The
> situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a
> complaint.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Todd
>
The problem is not so much as PHP version upgrade but rather ISAPI > =
FastCGI. Another example of broken app is phpmyadmin. Works fine with =
ISAPI configuration but breaks with FastCGI.
I don't think so, if the error is present just doesn't displayed in the =
old configuration but it does in the new, then I think this is a =
configuration issue, and not a SAPI one.
btw: which phpmyadmin version are you using? I did heard of that kind of =
report, but last weekend, when I was playing with a windows + apache + =
fastcgi + php devel environment I successfuly installed the latest =
phpmyadmin without running in any issue.
what are the symptoms, maybe they are IIS only?
Tyrael =20
Regards,
Tommy
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 19:27:20 von Pierre Joye
Hi,
FastCGI does not break any application. Please explain what you mean
by "breaking applications". It also helps to verify your log to see
what's actually happening, an error 500 can be a lot of things.
Cheers,
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
> The problem with FastCGI breaking certain apps is with IIS. =A0I=92ve alw=
ays use PHP with Apache as module for both Windows and FreeBSD. =A0I=92ll s=
ee if it works for FastCGI with Apache on Windows. =A0You can get to login =
screen (configured as cookie), but after a long while, I receive HTTP500 er=
ror. =A0The same config works fine with phpbb, phppgadmin. =A0The phpmyadmi=
n version that I=92m trying to get work is 3.3.1, although I have similar p=
roblems with previous versions of phpmyadmin when FastCGI came out even tho=
ugh I didn=92t try to troubleshoot it since it wasn=92t important at that t=
ime.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
> From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:42 AM
> To: Tommy Pham
> Cc: Todd Oberly; php-windows@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Todd Oberly [mailto:taoberly@mindspring.com]
>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:13 AM
>> To: php-windows@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor
>> (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these errors
>> seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. =A0Unless the difference
>> was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? =A0I could be wrong. =A0The
>> situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a
>> complaint.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Todd
>>
>
> The problem is not so much as PHP version upgrade but rather ISAPI > Fast=
CGI. =A0Another example of broken app is phpmyadmin. =A0Works fine with ISA=
PI configuration but breaks with FastCGI.
>
> I don't think so, if the error is present just doesn't displayed in the o=
ld configuration but it does in the new, then I think this is a configurati=
on issue, and not a SAPI one.
>
> btw: which phpmyadmin version are you using? I did heard of that kind of =
report, but last weekend, when I was playing with a windows + apache + fast=
cgi + php devel environment I successfuly installed the latest phpmyadmin w=
ithout running in any issue.
> what are the symptoms, maybe they are IIS only?
>
> Tyrael
>
> Regards,
> Tommy
>
>
>
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Re: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 19:30:57 von Pierre Joye
By the way, please start a new discussion for this problem. This
thread's questions have answered :)
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> Hi,
>
> FastCGI does not break any application. Please explain what you mean
> by "breaking applications". It also helps to verify your log to see
> what's actually happening, an error 500 can be a lot of things.
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
>> The problem with FastCGI breaking certain apps is with IIS. =A0I=92ve al=
ways use PHP with Apache as module for both Windows and FreeBSD. =A0I=92ll =
see if it works for FastCGI with Apache on Windows. =A0You can get to login=
screen (configured as cookie), but after a long while, I receive HTTP500 e=
rror. =A0The same config works fine with phpbb, phppgadmin. =A0The phpmyadm=
in version that I=92m trying to get work is 3.3.1, although I have similar =
problems with previous versions of phpmyadmin when FastCGI came out even th=
ough I didn=92t try to troubleshoot it since it wasn=92t important at that =
time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tommy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:42 AM
>> To: Tommy Pham
>> Cc: Todd Oberly; php-windows@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Todd Oberly [mailto:taoberly@mindspring.com]
>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:13 AM
>>> To: php-windows@lists.php.net
>>> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Windows binaries
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The warning is legitimate, and I will be reporting it to the vendor
>>> (and also fixing it myself, as it looks very simple)...but these errors
>>> seem to have started upon installing FastCGI. =A0Unless the difference
>>> was moving from PHP 5.2.12 -> 5.2.13 ? =A0I could be wrong. =A0The
>>> situation is under control, so this just an inquiry rather than a
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>
>> The problem is not so much as PHP version upgrade but rather ISAPI > Fas=
tCGI. =A0Another example of broken app is phpmyadmin. =A0Works fine with IS=
API configuration but breaks with FastCGI.
>>
>> I don't think so, if the error is present just doesn't displayed in the =
old configuration but it does in the new, then I think this is a configurat=
ion issue, and not a SAPI one.
>>
>> btw: which phpmyadmin version are you using? I did heard of that kind of=
report, but last weekend, when I was playing with a windows + apache + fas=
tcgi + php devel environment I successfuly installed the latest phpmyadmin =
without running in any issue.
>> what are the symptoms, maybe they are IIS only?
>>
>> Tyrael
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tommy
>>
>>
>>
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>
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RE: Windows binaries
am 08.04.2010 19:33:58 von Venkat Raman Don
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