[VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.

Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
this vote will be held by lazy consensus.

If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.

Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
US. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to
ensure we reach the full audience. Please include general@jao in your
reply.

-Rahul

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:

> This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
> Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
> on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.

There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release, =
that's probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you =
are eager to mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0.

Vadim


> Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
> this vote will be held by lazy consensus.
>=20
> If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.
>=20
> Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
> US. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to
> ensure we reach the full audience. Please include general@jao in your
> reply.
>=20
> -Rahul

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
>
>> This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
>> Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
>> on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.
>
> There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release, that's probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you are eager to mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0.
>


I wouldn't say I'm eager to mothball any codebase, its upto the
remaining developers of each of these codebases. In recent
discussions, it seemed like one or more of the mentioned codebases may
be ready for the Attic.

My opinion is that unless we anticipate release activity, we can go
ahead with the move. WRT Regex then, were/are you planning a release
some time in the not so distant future with said bugfix? If so, it'd
be great to make that release and then mothball it -- worth waiting in
that case. What do you think?

-Rahul


> Vadim
>
>
>> Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
>> this vote will be held by lazy consensus.
>>
>> If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.
>>
>> Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
>> US. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to
>> ensure we reach the full audience. Please include general@jao in your
>> reply.
>>
>> -Rahul
>

RE: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

For ORO and RegEx I am +1 to mothball. With RegEx in Java since 1.4, I do n=
ot see the need for these libs aside from legacy application support. I con=
sider mothballing a service to the community at large: please, join us in t=
he 21st century, port your RegEx code to Java 1.4. ;)

Gary Gregory
Senior Software Engineer
Seagull Software
email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
email: ggregory@apache.org
www.seagullsoftware.com=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rahul Akolkar [mailto:rahul.akolkar@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 18:19
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Vadim Gritsenko
> wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> >
> >> This is a vote (or more correctly, three independent votes) to move
> >> Jakarta ECS, Jakarta ORO and Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based
> >> on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic.
> >
> > There is one unreleased bugfix on trunk since the last regexp release,
> that's probably the only reason stopping me from voting +1. But if you ar=
e
> eager to mothball it, I won't object. My vote is +0.
> >
>
>=20
> I wouldn't say I'm eager to mothball any codebase, its upto the
> remaining developers of each of these codebases. In recent
> discussions, it seemed like one or more of the mentioned codebases may
> be ready for the Attic.
>=20
> My opinion is that unless we anticipate release activity, we can go
> ahead with the move. WRT Regex then, were/are you planning a release
> some time in the not so distant future with said bugfix? If so, it'd
> be great to make that release and then mothball it -- worth waiting in
> that case. What do you think?
>=20
> -Rahul
>=20
>=20
> > Vadim
> >
> >
> >> Since none of these subprojects may have enough PMC members active,
> >> this vote will be held by lazy consensus.
> >>
> >> If you object, please also provide a reasonable explanation.
> >>
> >> Vote runs for a week, ending no sooner than Aug 22nd, ~1:00 am Eastern
> >> US. Vote is being held on general@jao but is being cross-posted to
> >> ensure we reach the full audience. Please include general@jao in your
> >> reply.
> >>
> >> -Rahul
> >
>=20
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> With RegEx in Java since 1.4, I do not see the need for these libs =
aside from legacy application support. I consider mothballing a service =
to the community at large: please, join us in the 21st century, port =
your RegEx code to Java 1.4. ;)

I guess not everybody is satisfied with Java 1.4 version yet, otherwise =
there would be no such wide variety of choices:
http://tusker.org/regex/regex_benchmark.html

Vadim

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
>> With RegEx in Java since 1.4, I do not see the need for these libs aside from legacy application support. I consider mothballing a service to the community at large: please, join us in the 21st century, port your RegEx code to Java 1.4. ;)
>
> I guess not everybody is satisfied with Java 1.4 version yet, otherwise there would be no such wide variety of choices:
> http://tusker.org/regex/regex_benchmark.html

However that page seems to indicate that Jakarta Regexp is not
preferable to Java 1.4. Given that, the question is whether we believe
we'll be improving it dramatically rather than merely bugfix. Of
course there might be other reasons why Regexp is preferable.

ORO does do better than Java 1.4 and would seem to be the product
worth attention if we want to support a 'java.util.regex' isn't good
enough angle.

Hen