DBA Mentor?

DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 19:06:25 von Akachi Pictures

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Hello. My name is Chidiki=2C and I'm based in NYC. I'm working towards MYSq=
l certification. I'm looking for a mentor to sorta take me under his or her=
wing. Really just seeking some guidance and advice. I'm not a complete new=
bie to databases as I've studied some Oracle and SQL in computer school. (c=
ouldn't afford to complete the course). I'm currently a "data specialist"=
=2C but work mainly in access with few opps to write SQL statements :) I ha=
ve been in the field for a few years. =20

best=2C
Chidiki Whitley
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"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."=20



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Re: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 19:57:08 von Claudio Nanni - TomTom

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Nice picture,
the mentor that takes you under his wing,
but actually you dont need it, or better, you have thousands if not more on
the internet to help you out.
Just ask here and on other sites or blogs, and you will have the help you
need.
I just ask you a personal favour, write it the right way, "MySQL" ! ;-)

Welcome, and Good Luck with your journey.


Claudio


2011/5/4 Akachi Pictures

>
> Hello. My name is Chidiki, and I'm based in NYC. I'm working towards MYSql
> certification. I'm looking for a mentor to sorta take me under his or her
> wing. Really just seeking some guidance and advice. I'm not a complete
> newbie to databases as I've studied some Oracle and SQL in computer school.
> (couldn't afford to complete the course). I'm currently a "data specialist",
> but work mainly in access with few opps to write SQL statements :) I have
> been in the field for a few years.
>
> best,
> Chidiki Whitley
>
> "Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
>
>
>
>




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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 21:52:50 von Akachi Pictures

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Sorry everyone. Didn't know it'd cause this kind of response. Never mind=2C=
thanks for=20
responding to my message all the same.
=20
all the best,

Chidiki Whitley
Film Director Akachi=2C LLC
www.bestscreenwritingbooks.com
www.akachifilms.com

"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."=20




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Date: Wed=2C 4 May 2011 19:57:08 +0200
Subject: Re: DBA Mentor?
From: claudio.nanni@gmail.com
To: purplefilms@hotmail.com
CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com

Nice picture=2C
the mentor that takes you under his wing=2C
but actually you dont need it=2C or better=2C you have thousands if not mor=
e on the internet to help you out.
Just ask here and on other sites or blogs=2C and you will have the help you=
need.
I just ask you a personal favour=2C write it the right way=2C "MySQL" ! =
=3B-)


Welcome=2C and Good Luck with your journey.




Claudio



2011/5/4 Akachi Pictures


Hello. My name is Chidiki=2C and I'm based in NYC. I'm working towards MYSq=
l certification. I'm looking for a mentor to sorta take me under his or her=
wing. Really just seeking some guidance and advice. I'm not a complete new=
bie to databases as I've studied some Oracle and SQL in computer school. (c=
ouldn't afford to complete the course). I'm currently a "data specialist"=
=2C but work mainly in access with few opps to write SQL statements :) I ha=
ve been in the field for a few years.

best=2C
Chidiki Whitley

"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."



=20

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Claudio
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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 21:54:39 von Akachi Pictures

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GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!

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Re: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 22:21:14 von Rotsen

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Calm down,

There a many tutorials online. You do not need a tutor because when you ask
a
question here you will get many responses. You will get everyone here to
help you.

Start asking.....

Good luck,

Nestor :-)


On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Akachi Pictures wrote:

>
> GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!
>
>

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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 23:13:21 von Akachi Pictures

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No=2C not offended at all! Trust me=2C i'd much rather get no responses tha=
n a rather insulting remark as to soliciting training for $20. I mean=2C wh=
at is that??? I'm not naive=2C I "get it." So there were absolutely no expe=
cations on my part as far as having people "jump up to offer."
=20
As I'm self-studying=2C i was listening to a career podcast and they sugges=
ted getting a mentor to bounce questions off of and get advice. So=2C i pos=
ted what i posted.
=20
that's it.
=20
sigh....

Chidiki=20

"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."=20




=20
> Date: Wed=2C 4 May 2011 16:19:40 -0400
> From: rhino1@sympatico.ca
> To: purplefilms@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: DBA Mentor?
>=20
>=20
> I hope you're not offended by the fact that no one jumped up to offer=20
> to be your mentor. Your request was perfectly polite and I'm sure no one=
=20
> was offended by it.
>=20
> The thing is that most of the people on this mailing list are working=20
> full time and have families and private lives. Also=2C I think they are=20
> concerned that you are looking for a big commitment of time. Expecting=20
> that kind of person to give up a lot of scarce personal time is just not=
=20
> very realistic. I'm sure you'll look back on this in a few years when=20
> you are working full time and have an active private life yourself and=20
> realize how much you are asking.
>=20
> In the meantime=2C feel free to post questions here and I'm sure people=20
> will help as best they can. But don't look for really long answers=2C eve=
n=20
> to "big questions" like "how do I design a database?". You're much more=20
> likely to get a reference to a tutorial or a book than to have someone=20
> actually explain the process in detail. Most of us have bosses looking=20
> over our shoulder and simply can't take a lot of time to help someone to=
=20
> the level that a mentor typically does.
>=20
> Good luck to you!
>=20
> --
> Rhino
>=20
> On 2011-05-04 15:54=2C Akachi Pictures wrote:
> > GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!
> >
> >=20
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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 23:19:39 von Akachi Pictures

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Where did the word "tutor" come from. And "$"? Guys=2C I'm fine learning on=
my own. I love it! I'm pretty darn good with computers and know standard S=
QL. Just seeking a mentor in the field. It's okay if that's not possible. G=
eez!


Chidiki Whitley

"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."=20




=20


Date: Wed=2C 4 May 2011 13:21:14 -0700
Subject: Re: DBA Mentor?
From: rotsen@gmail.com
To: purplefilms@hotmail.com=3B mysql@lists.mysql.com

Calm down=2C

There a many tutorials online. You do not need a tutor because when you as=
k a=20
question here you will get many responses. You will get everyone here to h=
elp you.

Start asking.....

Good luck=2C

Nestor :-)



On Wed=2C May 4=2C 2011 at 12:54 PM=2C Akachi Pictures ..com> wrote:


GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!

=20
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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 04.05.2011 23:26:24 von Andrew Moore

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The mysql community is a friendly place full of intelligent people. It will
be there with more knowledge and experience then a single mentor could
cover. Read the documentation, play with the product, read some books. If
you need context or clarity lean on the lists/forums or IRC channels. Nobody
will demand money from you nor will they do your work for you.

On May 4, 2011 8:54 PM, "Akachi Pictures" wrote:
>
> GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!
>
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Re: DBA Mentor?

am 05.05.2011 00:30:45 von Rotsen

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I did not see any messages about $20

Maybe the sender sent it to you only.

Again, you got angry, take breath and ask your questions anytime.

:-)

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Akachi Pictures wrote:

>
> No, not offended at all! Trust me, i'd much rather get no responses than a
> rather insulting remark as to soliciting training for $20. I mean, what is
> that??? I'm not naive, I "get it." So there were absolutely no expecations
> on my part as far as having people "jump up to offer."
>
> As I'm self-studying, i was listening to a career podcast and they
> suggested getting a mentor to bounce questions off of and get advice. So, i
> posted what i posted.
>
> that's it.
>
> sigh....
>
> Chidiki
>
> "Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:19:40 -0400
> > From: rhino1@sympatico.ca
> > To: purplefilms@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: DBA Mentor?
> >
> >
> > I hope you're not offended by the fact that no one jumped up to offer
> > to be your mentor. Your request was perfectly polite and I'm sure no one
> > was offended by it.
> >
> > The thing is that most of the people on this mailing list are working
> > full time and have families and private lives. Also, I think they are
> > concerned that you are looking for a big commitment of time. Expecting
> > that kind of person to give up a lot of scarce personal time is just not
> > very realistic. I'm sure you'll look back on this in a few years when
> > you are working full time and have an active private life yourself and
> > realize how much you are asking.
> >
> > In the meantime, feel free to post questions here and I'm sure people
> > will help as best they can. But don't look for really long answers, even
> > to "big questions" like "how do I design a database?". You're much more
> > likely to get a reference to a tutorial or a book than to have someone
> > actually explain the process in detail. Most of us have bosses looking
> > over our shoulder and simply can't take a lot of time to help someone to
> > the level that a mentor typically does.
> >
> > Good luck to you!
> >
> > --
> > Rhino
> >
> > On 2011-05-04 15:54, Akachi Pictures wrote:
> > > GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!
> > >
> > >
>
>

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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 05.05.2011 00:52:47 von Akachi Pictures

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perhaps u misinterpreted. didn't get angry. just moved on :)

> Date: Wed=2C 4 May 2011 15:30:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: DBA Mentor?
> From: rotsen@gmail.com
> To: purplefilms@hotmail.com=3B mysql@lists.mysql.com
>=20
> I did not see any messages about $20
>=20
> Maybe the sender sent it to you only.
>=20
> Again=2C you got angry=2C take breath and ask your questions anytime.
>=20
> :-)
>=20
> On Wed=2C May 4=2C 2011 at 2:13 PM=2C Akachi Pictures l.com>wrote:
>=20
> >
> > No=2C not offended at all! Trust me=2C i'd much rather get no responses=
than a
> > rather insulting remark as to soliciting training for $20. I mean=2C wh=
at is
> > that??? I'm not naive=2C I "get it." So there were absolutely no expeca=
tions
> > on my part as far as having people "jump up to offer."
> >
> > As I'm self-studying=2C i was listening to a career podcast and they
> > suggested getting a mentor to bounce questions off of and get advice. S=
o=2C i
> > posted what i posted.
> >
> > that's it.
> >
> > sigh....
> >
> > Chidiki
> >
> > "Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed=2C 4 May 2011 16:19:40 -0400
> > > From: rhino1@sympatico.ca
> > > To: purplefilms@hotmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: DBA Mentor?
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope you're not offended by the fact that no one jumped up to offer
> > > to be your mentor. Your request was perfectly polite and I'm sure no =
one
> > > was offended by it.
> > >
> > > The thing is that most of the people on this mailing list are working
> > > full time and have families and private lives. Also=2C I think they a=
re
> > > concerned that you are looking for a big commitment of time. Expectin=
g
> > > that kind of person to give up a lot of scarce personal time is just =
not
> > > very realistic. I'm sure you'll look back on this in a few years when
> > > you are working full time and have an active private life yourself an=
d
> > > realize how much you are asking.
> > >
> > > In the meantime=2C feel free to post questions here and I'm sure peop=
le
> > > will help as best they can. But don't look for really long answers=2C=
even
> > > to "big questions" like "how do I design a database?". You're much mo=
re
> > > likely to get a reference to a tutorial or a book than to have someon=
e
> > > actually explain the process in detail. Most of us have bosses lookin=
g
> > > over our shoulder and simply can't take a lot of time to help someone=
to
> > > the level that a mentor typically does.
> > >
> > > Good luck to you!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rhino
> > >
> > > On 2011-05-04 15:54=2C Akachi Pictures wrote:
> > > > GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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Re: DBA Mentor?

am 05.05.2011 09:35:10 von Jigal van Hemert

Hi,

On 5-5-2011 0:52, Akachi Pictures wrote:
> perhaps u misinterpreted. didn't get angry. just moved on :)

The reason why you get some surprised messages on the list is because we
see the following:

May 4th 19:06 - your first message about a mentor
May 4th 19:57 - a reply by Claudio explaining where to find information
yourself
May 4th 21:52 - a reply from you "Sorry everyone. Didn't know it'd cause
this kind of response."
May 4th 21:54 - a reply from you "GUYS. I NEVER ASKED TO PAY MONEY OR
ASKED FOR TUTORING! GEEZ!"

We now assume that you received some messages off list from people
offering you tutoring for money. Nobody else saw those messages and your
replies looked a bit odd because of this.

Please keep track of whether a message came from the list or from
someone personally...

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Kind regards / met vriendelijke groet,

Jigal van Hemert.

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RE: DBA Mentor?

am 05.05.2011 15:54:02 von Jerry Schwartz

Folks, I have no skin in this game whatsoever; but I thought the original
question was reasonable (given that the person was new to the list), and I
thought the first answer was rude.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
Farmington, CT 06032

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
E-mail: jerry@gii.co.jp
Web site: www.the-infoshop.com




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Re: DBA Mentor?

am 05.05.2011 16:09:16 von Govinda

> Folks, I have no skin in this game whatsoever

same with me ^^^ .

....but I was just never sure what the OP meant by "mentor".
> "[...] take me under his or her wing [...]"

....seemed to imply wanting to hire someone to soften/expedite the $free =
self-study process.

When I really look into people's motivation, I never find real mal =
intentions.. I just have to look deep enough;=20
Everyone seemed innocent here (not deserving of any flippant remarks).

Communication is the trick, eh? =20
Are we surprised? ;-)

- Govinda


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