practical perl guides

Hi

Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I
have found a read the baisc beginners guides here
http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to -perl-510-part-2.html.

Was hoping to expand on this with some practical and hands on guides to perl.

personally I struggle to learn from the this is a language feature format like.

This is feature X
- this is an impractical example of using feature X.

This is feature Y
- this is an impractical example of using feature Y.

I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a
example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and
here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language
features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language
feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to
refer to for that.

Thanks in advance

Sayth

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Re: practical perl guides

>I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a
>example

It sounds like what you want is the Perl Cookbook [0].

[0]: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565922433/

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On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl.

How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you can
download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because I
haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH

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On May 27, 2011 1:28 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote:
>
>
> On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl.
>
> How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you can
download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because I
haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH

Ah, almost forgot - the perl cookbook.

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Re: practical perl guides

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:30 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
>> On May 27, 2011 1:28 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl.
>>>
>>> How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you can
>> download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because I
>> haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH
>>
>> Ah, almost forgot - the perl cookbook.
>>
>
> Thanks there is a lot at http://perldoc.perl.org/index-tutorials.html
>

Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or 5.12?

Sayth

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Re: practical perl guides

On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Sayth Renshaw
wrote:
> > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:30 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
> >> On May 27, 2011 1:28 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote:
> >>> On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw"
wrote:
> >>> > Hi
> >>> >
> >>> > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl.
> >>>
> >>> How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you
> >>> can
> >>
> >> download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because
> >> I haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH
> >>
> >> Ah, almost forgot - the perl cookbook.
> >
> > Thanks there is a lot at http://perldoc.perl.org/index-tutorials.html
>
> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or
> 5.12?

Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, free-as-in-
speech, community-driven, and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without
having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from Microsoft.
You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely
5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x.

Regards,

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Re: practical perl guides

Hi Sayth,

On Friday 27 May 2011 07:20:30 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> Hi
>
> Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I
> have found a read the baisc beginners guides here
> http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to -perl-510-part-
> 2.html.
>
> I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a
> example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and
> here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language
> features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language
> feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to
> refer to for that.
>

Maybe try my own "Perl for Perl Newbies":

http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/perl-for-newbies/

(Though it has some issues.)

There are other stuff referenced in the various pages of
http://perl-begin.org/ . The Perl cookbook should be interesting (but it's a
proprietary book).

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: practical perl guides

Hi,

On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or
>> 5.12?
>
> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, free-as-in-
> speech, community-driven,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although
5.12.3 is out so I must updated that).

> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without
> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from Microsoft.

ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or
via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from
Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the
cpan install tool will also build from scratch.

> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely
> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x.

At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from
http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has
lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues)
included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and
should be available in a few weeks.

5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that
won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants
to volunteer to help).

Cheers

Leo

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Re: practical perl guides

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or
>>> 5.12?
>>
>> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, free-as-in-
>> speech, community-driven,
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although
> 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that).
>
>> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without
>> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from Microsoft.
>
> ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or
> via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from
> Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the
> cpan install tool will also build from scratch.
>
>> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely
>> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x.
>
> At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from
> http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has
> lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues)
> included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and
> should be available in a few weeks.
>
> 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that
> won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants
> to volunteer to help).
>
> Cheers
>
> Leo
>
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Thanks for the tip especially about strawberry professional, I had
been watching Padre fail too install for the past hour or so on 5.12
and its installed and working by default now.

Sayth

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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote:

> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> >> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> >>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10
> or
> >>> 5.12?
> >>
> >> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source,
> free-as-in-
> >> speech, community-driven,
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although
> > 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that).
> >
> >> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without
> >> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from
> Microsoft.
> >
> > ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or
> > via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from
> > Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the
> > cpan install tool will also build from scratch.
> >
> >> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it -
> namely
> >> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now
> perl-5.14.x.
> >
> > At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from
> > http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has
> > lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues)
> > included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and
> > should be available in a few weeks.
> >
> > 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that
> > won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants
> > to volunteer to help).
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Leo
> >
> > --
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> > http://learn.perl.org/
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for the tip especially about strawberry professional, I had
> been watching Padre fail too install for the past hour or so on 5.12
> and its installed and working by default now.
>
> Sayth
>
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>

Hi

I recommend the book, Beginning Perl, by Simon Cozens
I'm a total newbie to programming and am finding it clear and instructional
It really does
" This is feature X
- this is an impractical (or not) example of using feature X."

Jon

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Hello
Which is best tool

to learn the perl at home.



regds,
abhay

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jonathan Harris
wrote:

> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sayth Renshaw > >wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > >> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> > >>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows?
> 5.10
> > or
> > >>> 5.12?
> > >>
> > >> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source,
> > free-as-in-
> > >> speech, community-driven,
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although
> > > 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that).
> > >
> > >> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without
> > >> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from
> > Microsoft.
> > >
> > > ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or
> > > via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from
> > > Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the
> > > cpan install tool will also build from scratch.
> > >
> > >> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it -
> > namely
> > >> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now
> > perl-5.14.x.
> > >
> > > At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from
> > > http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has
> > > lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues)
> > > included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and
> > > should be available in a few weeks.
> > >
> > > 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that
> > > won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants
> > > to volunteer to help).
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Leo
> > >
> > > --
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-help@perl.org
> > > http://learn.perl.org/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the tip especially about strawberry professional, I had
> > been watching Padre fail too install for the past hour or so on 5.12
> > and its installed and working by default now.
> >
> > Sayth
> >
> > --
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> > http://learn.perl.org/
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hi
>
> I recommend the book, Beginning Perl, by Simon Cozens
> I'm a total newbie to programming and am finding it clear and instructional
> It really does
> " This is feature X
> - this is an impractical (or not) example of using feature X."
>
> Jon
>

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On May 27, 2011 1:11 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote:
>
> Hello
> Which is best tool
>
> to learn the perl at home.
>

When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me
straighten things out :)

That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my perlish
blurrier.

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On 11-05-27 01:10 PM, abhay vyas wrote:
> Which is best tool
>
> to learn the perl at home.

A computer. :D


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I wanted to know
the easy tool which can be installed on your home pc or laptop and start
doing practice using a book and get the conceptual clarity


regds,


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote:

> On 11-05-27 01:10 PM, abhay vyas wrote:
>
>> Which is best tool
>>
>> to learn the perl at home.
>>
>
> A computer. :D
>
>
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 15:45, abhay vyas wrote:
> I wanted to know
> the easy tool which can be installed on your home pc or laptop and start
> doing practice using a book and get the conceptual clarity
>
>

you're really going to hijack a thread? i won't comment on the
question sense this is a 'beginners' list, but manners are always a
plus.

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>>>>> "av" == abhay vyas writes:

av> I wanted to know the easy tool which can be installed on your home
av> pc or laptop and start doing practice using a book and get the
av> conceptual clarity

there is no such tool for any language. best to get a good book
(beginning perl is free to download at learn.perl.org) and read
it. conceptual clarity is a buzzword that doesn't carry much weight. you
need to learn a language from the ground up, not from concepts. perl is
easy to learn the basics but it is deep and has many things that take
time to learn. the only way is to put in the time and effort. there is
no shortcut tool.

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Re: practical perl guides

On Friday 27 May 2011 20:34:51 shawn wilson wrote:
> On May 27, 2011 1:11 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote:
> > Hello
> > Which is best tool
> >
> > to learn the perl at home.
>
> When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me
> straighten things out :)
>
> That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my perlish
> blurrier.

What the hell? What do you mean by all that?

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Yes ,
I totally agree with Shlomi.

pls some one let me know the good tool to
learn perl as perlcritic is very complex

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:

> On Friday 27 May 2011 20:34:51 shawn wilson wrote:
> > On May 27, 2011 1:11 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > Which is best tool
> > >
> > > to learn the perl at home.
> >
> > When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me
> > straighten things out :)
> >
> > That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my
> perlish
> > blurrier.
>
> What the hell? What do you mean by all that?
>
> Regards,
>
> Shlomi Fish
>
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On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:

> On Friday 27 May 2011 20:34:51 shawn wilson wrote:
> > When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me
> > straighten things out :)
> >
> > That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my
> perlish
> > blurrier.
>
> What the hell? What do you mean by all that?
>
>
>
It's called irony. (shawn & Shawn)++, both of your comments made me giggle
:)

abhay: Stop being lazy - There are, fortunately or not, very few shortcuts
to learning a new language. Program regularly, and pick your sources well
(i.e. a good book, not as crappy web tutorial from ten years ago), that's
about as much as you can do.

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>>>>> "Shlomi" == Shlomi Fish writes:

Shlomi> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source,
Shlomi> free-as-in- speech, community-driven, and allows you to install
Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary
Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft. You should make use of the
Shlomi> latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely 5.12.x , as
Shlomi> 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x.

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Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary
Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft.

What is the costly software that you would need to install?

Sayth

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On Jun 1, 2011 1:56 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote:
>
> Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary
> Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft.
>
> What is the costly software that you would need to install?
>

'Without' being the key word there. Take a look at activestate's products
and licensing for an alternative (probably what Shlomi had in mind).

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Hi Sayth,

On Wednesday 01 Jun 2011 08:54:11 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary
> Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft.
>
> What is the costly software that you would need to install?
>

I was referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio

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Re: practical perl guides

You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will
go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C
compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not
necessary, as you could use MinGW

On 1 June 2011 11:26, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi Sayth,
>
> On Wednesday 01 Jun 2011 08:54:11 Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>> Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary
>> Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft.
>>
>> What is the costly software that you would need to install?
>>
>
> I was referring to this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio
>
> Regards,
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Re: practical perl guides

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will
>> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C
>> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not
>> necessary, as you could use MinGW
>
I thought activestate used MinGw and dmake for installing ppm modules.
Having said that I do have strawberry perl installed.

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Re: practical perl guides

To explain myself, I was actually referring to building perl from
source on Win32 rather than using a distro.

As for me, I use(d) strawberry simply because I found the ppa system
too cumbersome when I tried to combine it with cpan, and once perl
5.10 came out, it started to drag back, so I switched, and didn't look
back. ActiveState may have fixed those issues, but I've been so happy
with Strawberry that I didn't even try them once I made the switch.

On 1 June 2011 13:04, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sayth Renshaw wr=
ote:
>>> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will
>>> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C
>>> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not
>>> necessary, as you could use MinGW
>>
> =A0I thought activestate used MinGw and dmake for installing ppm modules.
> Having said that I do have strawberry perl installed.
>
> Sayth
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Hello erez ,
what other tools utility is good in combination with strawberry? to make it
more efficient.

Also where can I get input-output of a programm while using strawberry...

I see that strawberry only compiles the programm...but tells/displays
nothing
about success or output of program..



pls help me with this.....if you have any documenation..


regds,
abhay.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Erez Schatz wrote:

> To explain myself, I was actually referring to building perl from
> source on Win32 rather than using a distro.
>
> As for me, I use(d) strawberry simply because I found the ppa system
> too cumbersome when I tried to combine it with cpan, and once perl
> 5.10 came out, it started to drag back, so I switched, and didn't look
> back. ActiveState may have fixed those issues, but I've been so happy
> with Strawberry that I didn't even try them once I made the switch.
>
> On 1 June 2011 13:04, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sayth Renshaw
> wrote:
> >>> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I wil=
l
> >>> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C
> >>> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's no=
t
> >>> necessary, as you could use MinGW
> >>
> > I thought activestate used MinGw and dmake for installing ppm modules.
> > Having said that I do have strawberry perl installed.
> >
> > Sayth
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On Jun 2, 2011 1:17 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote:
>
> Hello erez ,
> what other tools utility is good in combination with strawberry? to make
it
> more efficient.
>
> Also where can I get input-output of a programm while using strawberry...
>

Look at NYTProf

> I see that strawberry only compiles the programm...but tells/displays
> nothing
> about success or output of program..
>

Success or failure is depends on your perspective if the program compiles -
it is up to you to generate that output.

Though, I've never used that branch of perl so its possible I'm missing
something fundamental here.... are you clicking on your program or running
it from cmd?

Ie, show what you get from:
type


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Re: practical perl guides

Hi

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:40, Erez Schatz wrote:
> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will
> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C
> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not
> necessary, as you could use MinGW

I guess a common misconception in the Perl/Win32 world is that using
ActiveState Perl makes it 'more difficult' than using StrawberryPerl
for compiling CPAN modules. This is no longer true, actually if you
install the CPAN module in ActiveState you'll get a CPAN client +
MinGW set up for you, which is pretty comparable to the way the CPAN
client for StrawberryPerl works. There's no need anymore to fetch
nmake.exe or install Visual Studio to compile an XS module.

I think StrawberryPerl led to a great improvement for Perl on Win32 in
general, and ActiveState Perl obviously benefits from that. Of course
ActiveState Perl also led to immense improvements for Perl on Win32 as
well! StrawberryPerl is more free than ActiveState, and the "IP
indemnification" AS is offering makes me shudder. (ref:
http://www.activestate.com/enterprise-edition)

Gabor Szabo recently created a new Strawberry with Padre:
http://padre.perlide.org/download.html and even what he calls
"Strawberry Perl with Cream" - it's Perl, with Padre, but also other
stuff as MongoDB, Dancer etc. See:
http://szabgab.com/blog/2011/05/strawberry-perl-with-cream-5 -12-3-v3-released.html

About books to learn Perl: "The Perl Cookbook" is nice, but it is also
8 years old. You might better want to choose a more recent book, or at
least a title that has been updated more recently. Already mentioned
was "Modern Perl", which is a good recommendation, but of course the
"Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl" and "Mastering Perl" trilogy
published by O'Reilly is great, as well as "Effective Perl
Programming" by brian d foy.

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