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#1: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 12:59:14 by Francisco Rivas

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Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to write
some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI library
for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I would
like to know what people recommend from their experience.

Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have a very
nice day.

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#2: Re: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 14:22:20 by Alan Haggai Alavi

On 09/28/11 16:29, Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to write
> some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI library
> for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I would
> like to know what people recommend from their experience.
>
> Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have a very
> nice day.
>

Hello, Francisco,

Padre, the Perl IDE, uses wxPerl and is under active development. The
latest Wx was released on 06th of June 2011. I recommend it.

Regards,
Alan Haggai Alavi.
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#3: Re: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 14:33:57 by Octavian Rasnita

From: "Alan Haggai Alavi" <alanhaggai@alanhaggai.org>
> On 09/28/11 16:29, Francisco Rivas wrote:
>> Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to
>> write
>> some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI
>> library
>> for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I
>> would
>> like to know what people recommend from their experience.
>>
>> Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have a
>> very
>> nice day.
>>
>
> Hello, Francisco,
>
> Padre, the Perl IDE, uses wxPerl and is under active development. The
> latest Wx was released on 06th of June 2011. I recommend it.
>
> Regards,
> Alan Haggai Alavi.


WxPerl++

Octavian


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#4: Re: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 15:09:45 by Shawn H Corey

On 11-09-28 06:59 AM, Francisco Rivas wrote:
> Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to write
> some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI library
> for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I would
> like to know what people recommend from their experience.
>
> Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have a very
> nice day.
>

Perl/Tk has the best documentation. If you're only doing one program
with a GUI, I would recommend it. If you're going to be doing many,
learn WxPerl.


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#5: Re: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 15:48:15 by Rob Dixon

On 28/09/2011 14:09, Shawn H Corey wrote:
> On 11-09-28 06:59 AM, Francisco Rivas wrote:
>> Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to
>> write
>> some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI
>> library
>> for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I
>> would
>> like to know what people recommend from their experience.
>>
>> Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have a
>> very
>> nice day.
>>
>
> Perl/Tk has the best documentation. If you're only doing one program
> with a GUI, I would recommend it. If you're going to be doing many,
> learn WxPerl.

I agree. wxPerl has by far the best design and API, and is fully
portable if that is a consideration.

Perhaps if you never expect to write another GUI interface then Perl/Tk
may get you up and running a little quicker.

Rob

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#6: Re: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 16:02:35 by Francisco Rivas

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Thank you very much, I will take a look a both wxPerl and Perl/Tk. The
application is very simple just read a file of paired values for example X :
Y and then show them to the user cha nge the Y value and then save all
changes to the same file.

Thank you very much for your time and every single comment.

2011/9/28 Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@gmail.com>

> From: "Alan Haggai Alavi" <alanhaggai@alanhaggai.org>
>
> On 09/28/11 16:29, Francisco Rivas wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to
>>> write
>>> some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI
>>> library
>>> for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I
>>> would
>>> like to know what people recommend from their experience.
>>>
>>> Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have a
>>> very
>>> nice day.
>>>
>>>
>> Hello, Francisco,
>>
>> Padre, the Perl IDE, uses wxPerl and is under active development. The
>> latest Wx was released on 06th of June 2011. I recommend it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan Haggai Alavi.
>>
>
>
> WxPerl++
>
> Octavian
>
>

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#7: Re: GUI Library

Posted on 2011-09-28 17:22:48 by Octavian Rasnita

From: "Shawn H Corey" <shawnhcorey@gmail.com>

> On 11-09-28 06:59 AM, Francisco Rivas wrote:
>> Hello, I am planning to write a very small stand alone application to =
write
>> some file and I would like to know which is the best/recommended GUI =
library
>> for Perl. I have read about wxPerl, GTK2, PerlQT4 and even Tk, but I =
would
>> like to know what people recommend from their experience.
>>
>> Thank you very very much in advance for your time and comments. Have =
a very
>> nice day.
>>
>=20
> Perl/Tk has the best documentation. If you're only doing one program=20
> with a GUI, I would recommend it. If you're going to be doing many,=20
> learn WxPerl.


Also, if you consider that the software should be also accessible for =
everyone, never use Tk, because it creates programs which are not =
accessible at all for the screen readers used by the blind.

Octavian


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#8: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-28 22:50:01 by Rajeev Prasad

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Hello,  =0Awhat would be the best AJAX module to use with perl?  =
=0Ais cgi::ajax best? I am not using CGI in my project so far so checking i=
f there is anything else out there...  =0Aare there any other modules w=
hich would be easy (natural fit) to work with data returned in JASON?  =
=0Aplease give your expert=A0advice based on your insight into this.  =
 =0Athank you.
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#9: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 03:35:43 by jeffpang

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#10: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 05:14:29 by Rajeev Prasad

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=0Ahow about dojo EXT motools  ...etc. ? can these be integ=
rated with perl CGI? ________________________________=0AFrom: Je=
ff Pang <jeffpang@mail.ru>=0ATo: Rajeev Prasad <rp.neuli@yahoo.com>=0ACc: "=
beginners@perl.org" <beginners@perl.org>=0ASent: Wednesday, September 28, 2=
011 8:35 PM=0ASubject: Re: best AJAX tool/module ? I have been using C=
GI::Ajax and JSON, both work fine for me. 29 сен=
тября 2011, 00:50 от Rajeev Prasad <rp.n=
euli@yahoo.com>:=0A> Hello,=0A>  =0A> what would be the best AJAX modu=
le to use with perl?=0A>  =0A> is cgi::ajax best? I am not using CGI i=
n my project so far so checking if there is anything else out there...=0A> =
 =0A> are there any other modules which would be easy (natural fit) to=
work with data returned in JASON?=0A>  =0A> please give your expert=
 advice based on your insight into this.=0A>  =0A>  =0A> tha=
nk you.=0A> =0A-- Â=A0 Jeff Pang Â=A0 jeffpang@mail.ru
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#11: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 07:24:35 by Octavian Rasnita

From: "Rajeev Prasad" <rp.neuli@yahoo.com>

Hello,

what would be the best AJAX module to use with perl?

is cgi::ajax best? I am not using CGI in my project so far so checking if
there is anything else out there...

are there any other modules which would be easy (natural fit) to work with
data returned in JASON?

please give your expert advice based on your insight into this.


**
Even though I am not an expert in AJAX, I think you may find useful to use a
JS lib like jQuery and use the AJAX tools it offers.

Octavian


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#12: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 08:28:25 by Shlomi Fish

Hello Rajeev,

first of all I should note (to you and to everybody else) that you shouldn't
start a new thread by replying to an existing message, because this confuses
threaded mailers. Instead, compose a new message to beginners@perl.org .

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT)
Rajeev Prasad <rp.neuli@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> what would be the best AJAX module to use with perl?
>  
> is cgi::ajax best? I am not using CGI in my project so far so checking if=
there is anything else out there...
>  

It's CGI::Ajax, and it should be OK for some stuff. In any case, I suggest =
you
learn how AJAX works above HTTP, so you will know how to implement it using=
any
HTTP service:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28programming%29

> are there any other modules which would be easy (natural fit) to work wit=
h data returned in JASON?
>  

It's â€=9CJSONâ€=9D (JavaScript Object Notation) - not â€=9CJAS=
ONâ€=9D . Do you wish to serve
such JSON data in Perl or to process it?

> please give your expert advice based on your insight into this.
>  
>  
> thank you.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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#13: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 08:32:07 by Shlomi Fish

Hi Rajeev,

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:14:29 -0700 (PDT)
Rajeev Prasad <rp.neuli@yahoo.com> wrote:

> how about dojo EXT motools  ...etc. ?
>=20
> can these be integrated with perl CGI?
=20
Yes, they can (including jQuery). What are you trying to do exactly?

Regards,

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#14: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 20:37:42 by Rajeev Prasad

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Hi Shlomi/all, i am simply trying to find a tool/module/method (as in =
English word method) which would allow asynchronous XMLHTTPRequest to be se=
nt to perl CGI programs on my web server (or sub routines in a perl script)=
and return the value(s) to webpage to be displayed in the div i want to di=
splay on. reading on web , i figured CGI::Ajax does it by somehow tyin=
g a JavaScript function (automatically generating JavaScript code and injec=
ting in the perl output) to a perl subroutine. So 1)it duplicates the code =
of the subroutine. 2) its JavaScript code can not be cached on client and, =
has to be created and transferred with every page load. 3) have dependency =
on CGI module. (meaning even though i am generating my html using TToolkit,=
and doing my form validation in JavaScript, i HAVE to load the extra code =
of CGI module, for using CGI::Ajax). =0Ai was wondering is this possib=
le: [example from web, modified a bit] <html>=0A<head>=0A<script type=
=3D"text/javascript">=0Afunction processperlroutine()=0A{=0Avar xmlhttp;=0A=
xmlhttp=3Dnew XMLHttpRequest();=0Axmlhttp.onreadystatechange=3Dfunction()=
Â=A0 { Â=A0 if (xmlhttp.readyState==4 && xmlhttp.status==2=
00)   Â=A0 {   Â=A0 document.getElementById("my=
Div").innerHTML=3Dxmlhttp.responseText;   Â=A0 } Â=A0 }=
=0Axmlhttp.open("POST","/path/to/perlscript.pl",true);=0Axml http.setRequest=
Header("Content-type","application/x-www-form-urlencoded");= 0Axmlhttp.send(=
);=0A}=0A</script>=0A</head>=0A<body> <h2>test</h2>=0A<textareavalue=
=3D"one record in each line" class=3D"validate[required]" type=3D"text" nam=
e=3D"records" id=3D"records" rows=3D5 cols=3D150></textarea> <p>=0A<b>save =
to file:</b> <inputclass=3D"validate[required,custom[onlyLetterNumber]] tex=
t-input" type=3D"text" style=3D"width:350px" name=3D"outfile" id=3D"outfile=
" /> <p>=0A<button type=3D"button" onclick=3D"processperlroutine()">process=
data</button>=0A<div id=3D"myDiv"></div>   </body>=0A</html>=0A=
________________________________=0AFrom: Shlomi Fish <shlomif@s=
hlomifish.org>=0ATo: Rajeev Prasad <rp.neuli@yahoo.com>=0ACc: Jeff Pang <je=
ffpang@mail.ru>; "beginners@perl.org" <beginners@perl.org>=0ASent: Thursday=
, September 29, 2011 1:32 AM=0ASubject: Re: best AJAX tool/module ? Hi=
Rajeev, On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:14:29 -0700 (PDT)=0ARajeev Prasad <rp.=
neuli@yahoo.com> wrote: > how about dojo EXT motools  ...etc. ?=
=0A> =0A> can these be integrated with perl CGI? Yes, they can (includ=
ing jQuery). What are you trying to do exactly? Regards,  =
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#15: Re: best AJAX tool/module ?

Posted on 2011-09-29 21:13:20 by Brandon McCaig

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Rajeev Prasad <rp.neuli@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i am simply trying to find a tool/module/method (as in English
> word method) which would allow asynchronous XMLHTTPRequest to
> be sent to perl CGI programs on my web server (or sub routines
> in a perl script) and return the value(s) to webpage to be
> displayed in the div i want to display on.

AJAX is most often used as a buzzword. The actual definition is
Asynchronous JavaScript And XML. The key is the XMLHttpRequest
object in JavaScript (a non-standard browser extension), which
allows code to make a Web request in the background
(asynchronously) without affecting the current page. The result
of that request may be XML data, but often JSON is used instead
of XML because it's simpler and usually smaller (the term AJAX is
often used anyway). You can also choose to just return plain HTML
too instead of data. The server doesn't actually /need/ to do
anything special for this. The AJAX part can be completely
implemented in client-side JavaScript. Then it's a matter of
having server-side code that returns the right response, whether
that's a snippet of HTML, an entire HTML document, or some data
format. The server doesn't necessarily need to expect to be used
asychronously, though it often does for efficiency's sake (it's
often more efficient to send data than an entire document).

> i was wondering is this possible: [example from web, modified a
> bit]
*snip*

Your example appears to be just fetching an HTML snippet from a
Web server and inserting it into the DOM with JavaScript.
Relatively little is needed on the server to do this. Which ever
CGI program you invoke will need to know what you are asking for.
It could be a specialized program that only handles one request
type, or it could be a dispatcher that figures out what you want
by GET or POST data and returns it appropriately. That is up to
you. Whether the program outputs an HTML document, an HTML
snippet, or some data format is also up to you. The client-side
implementation will need to specially deal with whatever response
type the server sends.

I would recommend a JavaScript library, such as jQuery, to make
things a little bit easier on the JavaScript side. As I said, the
XMLHttpRequest object is non-standard, and some browsers do it a
little bit differently. jQuery can also help to abstract other
incompatibilities, like innerHTML and innerText. jQuery can be
thought of as a cross-browser compatibility layer (with added
sugar). There are other options, of course, but jQuery is just
the one that I am familiar with.

I personally haven't gotten around to doing any real CGI
programming so I can't help out with that.

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