Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
not in a new tab of the same window?
I have a small popup with an audio player and links for infos about the
songs.
Those links have target _blank, but in Firefox (instead of opening the info
pages in a new window) it opens the pages in a new tab in the same popup
window, which is very unusable.
Daniele
> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
> not in a new tab of the same window?
I mean, I know you can configure the _target behaviour in your browser to
open the page in a new windows. But, of course, I would like to implement a
solution that works in any case.
Daniele
Ubi wrote:
> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window
> and not in a new tab of the same window?
>
> I have a small popup with an audio player and links for infos about
> the songs. Those links have target _blank, but in Firefox (instead of
> opening the info pages in a new window) it opens the pages in a new
> tab in the same popup window, which is very unusable.
Right-click link and choose "Open in New Window" ?
Or look in Tools > Options > Tabs to make all links go to a new window
(certainly not my preference).
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Once upon a time *Ubi* wrote:
>> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
>> not in a new tab of the same window?
>
> I mean, I know you can configure the _target behaviour in your browser to
> open the page in a new windows. But, of course, I would like to implement a
> solution that works in any case.
*I* decide how *I* like a new page (even a popup window) to be opended
in *my* browser, even on your site. Don't try to run your visitors
browsers for them, you may loose a lot of them if you do.
--
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> *I* decide how *I* like a new page (even a popup window) to be opended
> in *my* browser, even on your site. Don't try to run your visitors
> browsers for them, you may loose a lot of them if you do.
I agree with you in principle.
But there are special cases where something that in principle is correct
becomes non-sense.
This is my case of a small popup window with links.
It's really non-sense to open 900px wide pages in a small pop-up. I think
Firefox should have made an exception for popups windows.
Daniele
"Ubi"
>> *I* decide how *I* like a new page (even a popup window) to be opended
>> in *my* browser, even on your site. Don't try to run your visitors
>> browsers for them, you may loose a lot of them if you do.
>
> I agree with you in principle.
> But there are special cases where something that in principle is correct
> becomes non-sense.
> This is my case of a small popup window with links.
> It's really non-sense to open 900px wide pages in a small pop-up. I think
> Firefox should have made an exception for popups windows.
I think it is really nonsense to open a new window for any reason. If the
information is so important then put it right there, on the page I am
looking at.
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Ubi wrote:
> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
> not in a new tab of the same window?
>
> I have a small popup with an audio player and links for infos about the
> songs.
> Those links have target _blank, but in Firefox (instead of opening the info
> pages in a new window) it opens the pages in a new tab in the same popup
> window, which is very unusable.
There is no way you can override a user's settings in Firefox regarding
handling of new windows opening. You've already gotten an earful about
why it's undesirable so I'll leave that alone! ;-)
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"Ubi"
> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
> not in a new tab of the same window?
>
> I have a small popup with an audio player and links for infos about the
> songs.
> Those links have target _blank, but in Firefox (instead of opening the
> info pages in a new window) it opens the pages in a new tab in the same
> popup window, which is very unusable.
>
>
> Daniele
>
Hi Daniele,
Put this javascript in the of your document...
If you want the user to be able to resize the popup window then substitute
the appropriate line with...
winProp =
'width='+popW+',height='+popH+',left='+winleft+',top='+winUp +',scrollbars='+scroll+',resizable'
Then in the use this line as a template for a link...
onClick="winBRopen('somepage.html','TITLE','320','256','yes' );return false;"
title="Click here to open window">CLICK
TITLE = The title of the popup window if none is specified in the popup
document.
320 = width of popup.
256 = height of popup.
yes = do you want scrollbars? (yes, no, auto).
Hope this helps
Andy
Ubi;105233 Wrote:
> > *I* decide how *I* like a new page (even a popup window) to be opended
> > in *my* browser, even on your site. Don't try to run your visitors
> > browsers for them, you may loose a lot of them if you do.
>
> I agree with you in principle.
> But there are special cases where something that in principle is
> correct
> becomes non-sense.
> This is my case of a small popup window with links.
> It's really non-sense to open 900px wide pages in a small pop-up. I
> think
> Firefox should have made an exception for popups windows.
>
> Daniele
Don't do it, think of another way of doing what you are trying to do.
I know, you probably have a good reason for wanting to do what you want
to do. But bad designers/people in the past have ruined any chance you
have to convince us.
Because of that most users will not like what you are trying to do and
will close the popup/page. They will assume the worst.
Note that some of the Javascript example will not work for some users,
(and might even give them some obscure warnings that will scare them
away from your site).
FFMG
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On Nov 25, 2:28 pm, "Ubi"
> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
> not in a new tab of the same window?
The only sure way I know of is to go to the visitor's home and hold a
gun to his head telling then they must open it in a new window. And
even then you will run into the occational person that would rather
die than open a new window (I believe a few of the group's regulars
would fit into that catagory)
> I have a small popup with an audio player and links for infos about the
> songs.
> Those links have target _blank, but in Firefox (instead of opening the info
> pages in a new window) it opens the pages in a new tab in the same popup
> window, which is very unusable.
Most FF users are big boys and girls. If they find your popup audio
player unusable in a tab, they will open it in a new window.
On Nov 25, 3:02 pm, "Ubi"
> > *I* decide how *I* like a new page...
> I agree with you in principle.
> But there are special cases where something that in principle is correct
> becomes non-sense.
That is for the visitor to decide.
hi well one thing that should work to fix yourproblem is using
target=_new_window thatfor sure should forse evenfier fox toopen anew window
it works on seeMonky which is bast off of fier fox hope that helps you
"Ed Mullen"
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> Ubi wrote:
>> Is there some way to force firefox to open a new page in a new window and
>> not in a new tab of the same window?
>>
>> I have a small popup with an audio player and links for infos about the
>> songs.
>> Those links have target _blank, but in Firefox (instead of opening the
>> info pages in a new window) it opens the pages in a new tab in the same
>> popup window, which is very unusable.
>
> There is no way you can override a user's settings in Firefox regarding
> handling of new windows opening. You've already gotten an earful about
> why it's undesirable so I'll leave that alone! ;-)
>
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john smith wrote:
> hi well one thing that should work to fix yourproblem is using
> target=_new_window thatfor sure should forse evenfier fox toopen anew window
> it works on seeMonky which is bast off of fier fox hope that helps you
>> There is no way you can override a user's settings in Firefox regarding
>> handling of new windows opening. You've already gotten an earful about
>> why it's undesirable so I'll leave that alone! ;-)
I beg to differ. SeaMonkey and Firefox both allow the user to force new
windows to open in a tab and there's no HTML code that will over-ride that.
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john smith wrote:
>
> it works on seeMonky which is bast off of fier fox
You got that wrong, mate. Seamonkey is what was formerly known as the
mozilla application suite under different management. Firefox is a
spin-off of that same suite.
They do use the same rendering engine, but Seamonkey was never based on
Firefox.
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ok so i was rong about see monky bing bast off of fier fox.
but i was not rong about the target=_new_window bing able to to over wride
the tab setting cus i tested it on a testpage and onboth browsers it opend
in anew window wheni clicked onthat link so there is a html code
thatoverwrids the tab setting and that code is target=_new_window try it
andyou see foryour self
bast onfier fox
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> john smith wrote:
>>
>> it works on seeMonky which is bast off of fier fox
>
> You got that wrong, mate. Seamonkey is what was formerly known as the
> mozilla application suite under different management. Firefox is a
> spin-off of that same suite.
>
> They do use the same rendering engine, but Seamonkey was never based on
> Firefox.
>
> --
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john smith wrote:
> ok so i was rong about see monky bing bast off of fier fox.
> but i was not rong about the target=_new_window bing able to to over wride
> the tab setting cus i tested it on a testpage and onboth browsers it opend
> in anew window wheni clicked onthat link so there is a html code
> thatoverwrids the tab setting and that code is target=_new_window try it
> andyou see foryour self
> bast onfier fox
No, you are not correct. See my other reply. If you disagree I invite
you to write a page and post it online and I will gladly test my
SeaMonkey and Firefox installations against it. And if you can figure
out how to create a page that will over-ride my browser settings in this
regard I will happily admit it.
Until then, stop posting incorrect assertions. It's not helpful.
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sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse the
the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act is why it
worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way inless of corse
likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows instedof tabs
"Ed Mullen"
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> john smith wrote:
>> ok so i was rong about see monky bing bast off of fier fox.
>> but i was not rong about the target=_new_window bing able to to over
>> wride the tab setting cus i tested it on a testpage and onboth browsers
>> it opend in anew window wheni clicked onthat link so there is a html code
>> thatoverwrids the tab setting and that code is target=_new_window try
>> it andyou see foryour self
>> bast onfier fox
>
> No, you are not correct. See my other reply. If you disagree I invite
> you to write a page and post it online and I will gladly test my SeaMonkey
> and Firefox installations against it. And if you can figure out how to
> create a page that will over-ride my browser settings in this regard I
> will happily admit it.
>
> Until then, stop posting incorrect assertions. It's not helpful.
>
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> Consciousness - the annoying time between naps.
In article
"john smith"
> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse the
> the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act is why it
> worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way inless of corse
> likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows instedof tabs
I can't work out whether it would be more difficult to write like
this deliberately or by accident.
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john smith wrote:
> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse the
> the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act is why it
> worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way inless of corse
> likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows instedof tabs
There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
be done. Period!
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dorayme;106083 Wrote:
> In article
> "john smith"
>
> > sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only
> becuse the
> > the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act is
> why it
> > worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way inless of
> corse
> > likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows instedof tabs
>
> I can't work out whether it would be more difficult to write like
> this deliberately or by accident.
>
Either way, it is mildly annoying.
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Ed Mullen wrote:
> john smith wrote:
>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>> instedof tabs
>
> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
> be done. Period!
>
>
Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
here...
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On 25 nov, 15:02, "Ubi"
> It's really non-sense to open 900px wide pages in a small pop-up. I think
> Firefox should have made an exception for popups windows.
>
> Daniele
Daniele,
I entirely agree with RF when he says
"If the information is so important then put it right there, on the
page I am
looking at."
G=E9rard
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
>> john smith wrote:
>>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>>> instedof tabs
>>
>> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
>> be done. Period!
>
> Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
> form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
> here...
I'm still trying to untie "itturends".
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> john smith wrote:
>>>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>>>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>>>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>>>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>>>> instedof tabs
>>>
>>> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
>>> be done. Period!
>>
>> Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
>> form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
>> here...
>
> I'm still trying to untie "itturends".
I'm betting "it turns out", with a 'silent d' added in, and the word
'out' missing.
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soory but im doing my best to write bing totly blind and and having
nothing but a sckreen reader to help me out maks it relly hard to write and
i mess things and get words stuck together some times but know this i don't
do it on perpace . and I do try and edit my messages but i domess things
some times.
john smith wrote:
> soory but im doing my best to write bing totly blind and and having
> nothing but a sckreen reader to help me out maks it relly hard to write and
> i mess things and get words stuck together some times but know this i don't
> do it on perpace . and I do try and edit my messages but i domess things
> some times.
That actually crossed my mind, as you're making the same type of
mistakes as another blind poster in the webmaster group. I bet that if
you let your reader speak the words you wrote, you won't hear the
difference between a correctly spelled word and an incorrectly spelled
one. Makes it kinda hard to catch the errors I think.
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> john smith wrote:
>>>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>>>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>>>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>>>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>>>> instedof tabs
>>> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
>>> be done. Period!
>> Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
>> form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
>> here...
>
> I'm still trying to untie "itturends".
>
>
"it turns" as in "it turns out"?
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john smith wrote:
> soory but im doing my best to write bing totly blind and and having
> nothing but a sckreen reader to help me out maks it relly hard to write and
> i mess things and get words stuck together some times but know this i don't
> do it on perpace . and I do try and edit my messages but i domess things
> some times.
>
>
With that knowledge we shall cope. We have others here that are blind or
not native English speakers and we can usually find common ground to
communicate. But sometimes it is difficult to differentiate from those
who think it is really cool using super cyber-speak slang....
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In article
"john smith"
> soory but im doing my best to write bing totly blind and and having
> nothing but a sckreen reader to help me out maks it relly hard to write and
> i mess things and get words stuck together some times but know this i don't
> do it on perpace . and I do try and edit my messages but i domess things
> some times.
No, I'm sorry mate. This did not occur to me and I would not have
made my remark (about the writing being deliberate or accidental)
if it had occurred to me that you were blind and using a screen
reader. You still get your meaning across ok. Don't go away, you
can learn a few things here. (I just did.)
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Els wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>> john smith wrote:
>>>>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>>>>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>>>>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>>>>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>>>>> instedof tabs
>>>>
>>>> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
>>>> be done. Period!
>>>
>>> Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
>>> form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
>>> here...
>>
>> I'm still trying to untie "itturends".
>
> I'm betting "it turns out", with a 'silent d' added in, and the word
> 'out' missing.
AND a spare "e" thrown in just for good measure?
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john smith wrote:
> soory but im doing my best to write bing totly blind and and having
While I did just mention one of your words ("itturends") that I was still
trying to figure out, in hopes that someone else could decode it, I had
already (before you posted this explanation) kind of pictured you reading
and posting with at least a very severe vision impairment and perhaps even
using a mouth stylus. I commend you for your effort in wrestling with
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Els wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>>> john smith wrote:
>>>>>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>>>>>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>>>>>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>>>>>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>>>>>> instedof tabs
>>>>> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
>>>>> be done. Period!
>>>> Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
>>>> form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
>>>> here...
>>> I'm still trying to untie "itturends".
>> I'm betting "it turns out", with a 'silent d' added in, and the word
>> 'out' missing.
>
> AND a spare "e" thrown in just for good measure?
>
I gotta give it up to Els. That was a brilliant translation!
You know, before the first drink I was totally flummoxed by the prose.
After the second drink I thought it charming in a kind of "stranger in a
strange land" sort of way. After the fourth drink I was sitting staring
at the screen going: "I need another drink."
Having slept on it and come back for review I really wonder what's going
on.
Hmm. In all seriousness, I wonder if the poster is using a speech
translator. Firefox=fier fox. SeaMonkey=see monky. I guess=igess. If
I sound it out in my head I wind up hearing Stephen Hawking. Tawking.
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john smith wrote:
> soory but im doing my best to write bing totly blind and and having
> nothing but a sckreen reader to help me out maks it relly hard to write and
> i mess things and get words stuck together some times but know this i don't
> do it on perpace . and I do try and edit my messages but i domess things
> some times.
>
>
Ahhh! In a reply I just wrote I surmised that might be the case. I
should have read through the thread first and gotten the answer.
John, no problem. Keep posting, we'll figure it all out.
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Els wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>>> john smith wrote:
>>>>>> sorry I apolagise for what i said before itturends it was only becuse
>>>>>> the the way mycoppysof fier and fox and see monky were set up to act
>>>>>> is why it worked for me so i was totly rong so igess thereisno way
>>>>>> inless of corse likemethepersonhas fier fox set to openwindows
>>>>>> instedof tabs
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no way. Period. No "inless", no unless, no nothing, it cannot
>>>>> be done. Period!
>>>>
>>>> Great one Ed! I was having a tough time deciding whether this was some
>>>> form of bad "cyber-speak", non-English struggle, or illiteracy going on
>>>> here...
>>>
>>> I'm still trying to untie "itturends".
>>
>> I'm betting "it turns out", with a 'silent d' added in, and the word
>> 'out' missing.
>
> AND a spare "e" thrown in just for good measure?
Yup. Depending on the pronunciation or 'turn'.
Not sure about English, but in Dutch it's quite common to pronounce an
extra vowel between consonants.
The Dutch word "melk" (milk) for example, is often pronounced as
"mellek" or "melluk".
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